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Old 06-26-2015, 02:13 PM   #1
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Such as? Anything you could link ?
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It's comforting to know nine individuals who are not elected can push the agenda of an administration at the expense of the very Constitution they were sworn to uphold... Where's that mothership when you need it??! 😎
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And while we were distracted by this and the abolishment of the Confederate Flag, the TPP Agreement was signed. New World Order has been realized.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politi...gress-tpp-tpa/

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Perspectives... First of, if you know your history, the Confederate Flag has nothing to do with slavery. This association was made by Northerners (who are unaware of historical fact) and Lying Libs.
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Perspectives... First of, if you know your history, the Confederate Flag has nothing to do with slavery. This association was made by Northerners (who are unaware of historical fact) and Lying Libs.
Exactly! Great point!
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You are absolutely right, that flag has nothing to do with slavery. The fallout from TPP however, will make slaves of every working person in this country.
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Perspectives... First of, if you know your history, the Confederate Flag has nothing to do with slavery. This association was made by Northerners (who are unaware of historical fact) and Lying Libs.
I'd like to think I know a lot about history, but the doesnt the confederate flag represent the confederation states who succeeded from the US? One of the primary reasons of succession being due to the abolition of slavery and its economic impact on the south's cotton industry and ultimately the shifts in political power that would be created by abolishing slavery.

I'm not black, but I can understand how many black people feel that it's a symbol of slavery due to association of the states and people it represented. I'd like to hear your argument on why it's not related to slavery.
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I will answer this more in depth tomorrow, but for now here are two books I recommend...
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I will answer this more in depth tomorrow, but for now here are two books I recommend...
I look forward to that tomorrow. I've yet to take a look the first book, but it seems like an interesting read. The second book (based on a synopsis) seems to capture the main bullet point of my previous assertion. Regardless of the North's "reason" for war, it's about money and power at the core. The primary contention to that is Slaves. Yes, Lincoln had a personal distaste for slavery, but was also quoted as saying:

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.”

Which leads back to my point about the civil war being about money and power despite most history teacher's portrayal of Lincoln as the great slave freer. If you look at the Confederate state's Declaration of Causes (found here: http://www.civilwar.org/education/hi...nofcauses.html) you'll notice that slavery is EXTREMELY present in their reasoning behind seceding (of course among other reasons).

Regardless of the underlying reason for slavery, differences of opinion between 2 entities, and ultimately proposed secession; one faction stood in favor of, one faction stood against slavery. Despite the Facebook click bait message, that flag represents states that were pro-slavery, original intention of the flag notwithstanding. From my perspective (and probably most black people's), it's difficult if not impossible not to view a "battle flag" that represented states who were pro slavery not to represent slavery.

From the perspective of free speech however, I defend the right to personally own, hang, wear etc. a confederate flag despite personal opinions of my self or others. If stores want to remove them in wake of the shooting, well it's up to the corporations to make that decision if they want to sell or not sell them.
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I recommend reading "The South Was Right" by the Kennedy brothers. Makes the case of a strong central government trampling the rights of the states.. Hmm... Déjàvu?
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I recommend reading "The South Was Right" by the Kennedy brothers. Makes the case of a strong central government trampling the rights of the states.. Hmm... Déjàvu?
Great read! Lots of parallels......
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Seems to me slavery was the central issue. This is from the Secession document for the state of Mississippi.

"A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove."
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