“Time is like a river"

[Old-T]

No I cannot--but I guarantee I will disagree with yours.

Just as I disagree with this unnamed Marine.

No, I do not like where we are today--but unfortunately too many like he/she want to go back to this wonderful vision of 'America the Way It Should Be". The trouble is, that vision is wonderful from the perspective of the white, male, protestant subgroup.

The people in power never want to share it. And when they are forced to, the results are usually far uglier than if they had been less greedy. Too many of the people who "want to save America" want to put women back in the kitchen, want to return to "separate but equal", and want to send back all immigrants after their forefathers showed up.

Yes, we have problems and things that need to be fixed, but it is odd (not really) how that diatribe you started this thread with doesn't really saw HOW to do it. Isn't that exactly your RWWs gripe (correctly, I will say) with passing ACA? That the details were not really thought out, but it sounded good. So tell me, how do you go back, reclaim the America that never really was for everyone, without shoving whole classes of people back into "lesser citizen" status?

[DSK]

Originally Posted by Old-T

No I cannot--but I guarantee I will disagree with yours.

Just as I disagree with this unnamed Marine.

No, I do not like where we are today--but unfortunately too many like he/she want to go back to this wonderful vision of 'America the Way It Should Be". The trouble is, that vision is wonderful from the perspective of the white, male, protestant subgroup.

The people in power never want to share it. And when they are forced to, the results are usually far uglier than if they had been less greedy. Too many of the people who "want to save America" want to put women back in the kitchen, want to return to "separate but equal", and want to send back all immigrants after their forefathers showed up.

Yes, we have problems and things that need to be fixed, but it is odd (not really) how that diatribe you started this thread with doesn't really saw HOW to do it. Isn't that exactly your RWWs gripe (correctly, I will say) with passing ACA? That the details were not really thought out, but it sounded good. So tell me, how do you go back, reclaim the America that never really was for everyone, without shoving whole classes of people back into "lesser citizen" status?

I do not believe there is a peaceful solution. I'm just glad the rest of the world is stupid enough to accept our unbacked currency, and I have enough that my kids can inherit enough to move.

Other than that, I would say make it illegal to collect any statistics based upon race or sex, kick out any immigrant that cannot pay enough in taxes to justify their existence here, and expand the balance sheet of the Fed through quantitative easing each year to equal the amount of money spent on social welfare programs, foreign aid, and the interest on the debt.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Old-T

No I cannot--but I guarantee I will disagree with yours.

Just as I disagree with this unnamed Marine.

No, I do not like where we are today--but unfortunately too many like he/she want to go back to this wonderful vision of 'America the Way It Should Be". The trouble is, that vision is wonderful from the perspective of the white, male, protestant subgroup.

The people in power never want to share it. And when they are forced to, the results are usually far uglier than if they had been less greedy. Too many of the people who "want to save America" want to put women back in the kitchen, want to return to "separate but equal", and want to send back all immigrants after their forefathers showed up.

Yes, we have problems and things that need to be fixed, but it is odd (not really) how that diatribe you started this thread with doesn't really saw HOW to do it. Isn't that exactly your RWWs gripe (correctly, I will say) with passing ACA? That the details were not really thought out, but it sounded good. So tell me, how do you go back, reclaim the America that never really was for everyone, without shoving whole classes of people back into "lesser citizen" status?

You don't. The modern conservative is against Obama rather than actually being FOR something. They are FOR whatever Obama is against. Not because they actually like it half the time, but simply because it's the opposite view. And when they actually do get around to putting together anything, it's often chocked full of pie-in-the-sky ideas that have no real chance of working, but they don't care because then they get to scream that it was those goddamn liberals that caused them to fail, when they actually had no chance of succeeding anyway.

I heard Rush Limbaugh say, many times, that he hoped Obama screwed things up so bad people would be begging for a republican. What kind of idiot actually hopes for bad things to happen to a country they supposedly love?

[DSK]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

What kind of idiot actually hopes for bad things to happen to a country they supposedly love?

The idiots who opposed Reagan, Bush, etc....

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by DSK

The idiots who opposed Reagan, Bush, etc....

Opposing someone is different than wishing bad things would happen.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Old-T

No I cannot--but I guarantee I will disagree with yours.

Just as I disagree with this unnamed Marine.

No, I do not like where we are today--but unfortunately too many like he/she want to go back to this wonderful vision of 'America the Way It Should Be". The trouble is, that vision is wonderful from the perspective of the white, male, protestant subgroup.

The people in power never want to share it. And when they are forced to, the results are usually far uglier than if they had been less greedy. Too many of the people who "want to save America" want to put women back in the kitchen, want to return to "separate but equal", and want to send back all immigrants after their forefathers showed up.

Yes, we have problems and things that need to be fixed, but it is odd (not really) how that diatribe you started this thread with doesn't really saw HOW to do it. Isn't that exactly your RWWs gripe (correctly, I will say) with passing ACA? That the details were not really thought out, but it sounded good. So tell me, how do you go back, reclaim the America that never really was for everyone, without shoving whole classes of people back into "lesser citizen" status?

Well let me show you, Old-D... you old racist bastard, you... http://newsmachete.com/?news=632


Can you name the biggest racist employer in America?


Every time the liberal media discovers that the racial composition of any particular company or industry does not reflect the population of the United States, immediately millions of gallons of ink (or digitial ink) are shed as the media frantically searches for signs of inherent racism. Just look at this recent article worrying that "not enough Black directors were making Superbowl ads". But in a curious article in the New York Times, the Times mentions an enormous racial disparity only second handedly, and doesn't seem concerned about the nature of it, because the recipients of it are not White, but Black.

Roughly one in five black adults works for the government, teaching school, delivering mail, driving buses, processing criminal justice and managing large staffs. They are about 30 percent more likely to have a public sector job than non-Hispanic whites, and twice as likely as Hispanics.

“Where else can you get a middle-class job without a college degree?” asked Bruce Bodner, the lawyer for the Transit Workers Union Local 234 in Philadelphia. A bus driver there who has been on the job for more than four years earns an average of $64,000 a year including overtime pay, he said, and skilled craft workers, like mechanics and carpenters, can earn more. Nearly 60 percent of the roughly 5,000 people who work for the city’s transit system, he said, are black.

15.6% of Black men are employed by the government while only 12.5% of white men are; 21.4% of Black women work for the government while 18.2% of White women do. These figures are especially stunning because there are many fewer Black than White people; to achieve this disparity, the government has to employ a lot more Black than White people.

And they get paid pretty well too.

State and local government workers earned an average of $28.17 an hour in December 2014, according to the Labor Department, in addition to a basket of other benefits worth nearly $16 an hour. (For a typical 35-hour week, that is roughly $51,000 a year, plus $29,000 in benefits.) Often their paychecks are supplemented with overtime.

In Miami, a bus operator’s base pay falls between $32,000 and $50,000, without overtime, according to county figures. [not counting benefits either]

So not only are the jobs awarded on the basis of race, but the pay for such unskilled jobs are discriminatory as well, because people of one race are being paid a much higher wage to do unskilled labor than people of other races would be paid in the private sector. And since these are wages paid with tax dollars, most income taxpayers, who are not minorities, are supporting redistribution of wealth involuntarily based on race.

So why is the Times writing about this now? Because state and local governments are apparently cutting back on jobs, and Blacks are in danger of the losing some of the jobs they gained through preferential treatment.

I'm sure you see the irony here on several levels. When there is a statistical disparity against Black employment, the media is the first to cry "racism"; when it's the opposite, the media is only worried about how to perpetuate it. It's standard liberal media double standard reverse racism.

[WombRaider]

a lot of it depends on the type of job you're talking about and the level of education the person has. The higher the level of education, the lower the disparity is when comparing public and private sector jobs. A person with a bachelor's degree, for example, has little to no difference in salary when you compare private to public sector. As you go up; PHD, Masters, etc., the disparity actually favors the private sector.

Also, simply because more blacks or minorities have government jobs doesn't mean the jobs are awarded based on race. It comes down to education.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

The irony is those rebels were liberals. They fought for radical change.

Yes. It's too bad the modern left co-opted and ruined that word.

Today, those rebels would be overthrowing big, progressive government. And progressives would be calling them racists.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Yes. It's too bad the modern left co-opted and ruined that word.

Today, those rebels would be overthrowing big, progressive government. And progressives would be calling them racists.

Probably. Both parties talk about small government then they turn around and do nothing to bring it about.

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You don't. The modern conservative is against Obama rather than actually being FOR something. They are FOR whatever Obama is against. Not because they actually like it half the time, but simply because it's the opposite view. And when they actually do get around to putting together anything, it's often chocked full of pie-in-the-sky ideas that have no real chance of working, but they don't care because then they get to scream that it was those goddamn liberals that caused them to fail, when they actually had no chance of succeeding anyway.

I heard Rush Limbaugh say, many times, that he hoped Obama screwed things up so bad people would be begging for a republican. What kind of idiot actually hopes for bad things to happen to a country they supposedly love?

Sounds like the left from 2000 to 2008.

[i'va biggen]

American first nation believed time was a pool where all things happened.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

What a bunch of blowhard bullshit. Every generation has thought it was the end for them. And yet we continue on. Some people are just more comfortable feeling 'put upon'. It's their default setting.

At some time those generations were correct. The Greeks civilization fell, the Romans fell, the Ottoman Empire fell, the English lost control of the world, and the French returned home. Someday the United States will fall and it may be tomorrow. Hoping that is does not happen or ignoring the fact that it may happen won't stop it. People like Baby Killer, WE, Tampon, and the rest of the rat pack don't know or care about tomorrow. Their thinking, like all democratic/liberal thinking is static.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

At some time those generations were correct. The Greeks civilization fell, the Romans fell, the Ottoman Empire fell, the English lost control of the world, and the French returned home. Someday the United States will fall and it may be tomorrow. Hoping that is does not happen or ignoring the fact that it may happen won't stop it. People like Baby Killer, WE, Tampon, and the rest of the rat pack don't know or care about tomorrow. Their thinking, like all democratic/liberal thinking is static.

a professed conservative who claims that liberalism is static
conservative by its very definition is static. Maintaining the status quo, etc.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

a professed conservative who claims that liberalism is static
conservative by its very definition is static. Maintaining the status quo, etc.

Here is some of your NON-status Quo... FruitLooper... https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ide-month-2015

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Here is some of your NON-status Quo... FruitLooper... https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ide-month-2015

Reckon that means that woomby and shammy will be putting on their rainbow colored thongs, breaking out their rainbow flag and marching through the back alley of Talleywackers with azzup to parade their Presidential proclamation to" be nice to flamers" month ! Guess they'll be expecting their "rates" for their "services" out in back of the dumpster to go up too, now that they've been "recognized" .