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05-20-2015, 12:45 AM
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I'm not "divinating" anything. Do you really think they would approve of all the secrecy in government? If so, you're an idiot.
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I think that human beings are human beings and while our language, clothes, haircuts, etc., might have changed, not much else has. Secrecy is not a 21st century invention. You want something that will never be. To continue to bang your head against the same spot in the wall is pointless.
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05-20-2015, 01:09 AM
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I think that human beings are human beings and while our language, clothes, haircuts, etc., might have changed, not much else has. Secrecy is not a 21st century invention. You want something that will never be. To continue to bang your head against the same spot in the wall is pointless.
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I'm not going to accept dishonest and corrupt government. I'm not going to vote for tyrants, regardless of party. I know that as long as Democrats and Republicans are in power, government will be corrupt and not representative. Our Founders dream has failed. I accept it, but I will never support or excuse it.
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05-20-2015, 01:53 AM
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I'm not going to accept dishonest and corrupt government. I'm not going to vote for tyrants, regardless of party. I know that as long as Democrats and Republicans are in power, government will be corrupt and not representative. Our Founders dream has failed. I accept it, but I will never support or excuse it.
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have you done anything, apart from hope, to change it?
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05-20-2015, 01:36 PM
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Of course I have. Not disclosing it on here.
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05-20-2015, 01:49 PM
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Of course I have. Not disclosing it on here.
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so... no.
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05-20-2015, 01:55 PM
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Make up whatever you want. If it makes your pathetic, delusional life a tiny bit more bearable, WormRaper, go ahead. It's my Christian duty.
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05-20-2015, 02:00 PM
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Make up whatever you want. If it makes your pathetic, delusional life a tiny bit more bearable, WormRaper, go ahead. It's my Christian duty.
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Says the man who's done unseen things... whatever
I've found that in insults, people often describe their own condition.
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05-20-2015, 10:11 PM
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The 767 has been around a long time. Tests were done way before 9/11. The specs on the plane have been public long before 9/11. Nice try though.
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That's great I am glad Boeing tests their planes. You keep reading up on it ok.
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05-20-2015, 10:20 PM
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That's great I am glad Boeing tests their planes. You keep reading up on it ok.
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So, you have no answer for my point. It's not as if they changed the specs of the plane after 9/11.
You haven't given me one solid reason to believe anything you say about this.
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05-21-2015, 12:55 AM
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Says the man who's done unseen things... whatever
I've found that in insults, people often describe their own condition.
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Really. That's what you're going to go with. Ooookaaay!
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05-21-2015, 01:19 AM
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Really. That's what you're going to go with. Ooookaaay!
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Yes, bitch tits, that's what I'm going with.
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05-21-2015, 01:27 AM
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So, you have no answer for my point. It's not as if they changed the specs of the plane after 9/11.
You haven't given me one solid reason to believe anything you say about this.
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Hey you stated what Boeing said the specs are. The 767 can fly at any speed at any altitude. Did they put in parenthesis, even at the hands of an inexperienced pilot? Which by the way is the only pilot who has ever actually done it.
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05-21-2015, 02:50 AM
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Hey you stated what Boeing said the specs are. The 767 can fly at any speed at any altitude. Did they put in parenthesis, even at the hands of an inexperienced pilot? Which by the way is the only pilot who has ever actually done it.
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I never said any speed. I said that at any altitude it could fly the speed that two independent entities have estimate the planes were flying at when they hit the building. They had training, you know this. Were they experienced? No, but they could certainly fly it into a building. Any pilot will tell you the two hardest things about flying are taking off and landing. They weren't concerned with either of those things.
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05-21-2015, 09:14 AM
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I never said any speed. I said that at any altitude it could fly the speed that two independent entities have estimate the planes were flying at when they hit the building. They had training, you know this. Were they experienced? No, but they could certainly fly it into a building. Any pilot will tell you the two hardest things about flying are taking off and landing. They weren't concerned with either of those things.
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when the hijacker took over the cockpit if that plane was at or near cruising altitude and in the 500 plus range in speed he had to navigate to New York then descend from 30,000 ft lets say to 700 ft in order to strike the WTC all at this beloved speed of 560 mph. I don't think so. That plane wasn't going much over 200 mph. He couldn't navigate that plane into the building going 560mph at 700 ft.
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05-21-2015, 09:51 AM
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when the hijacker took over the cockpit if that plane was at or near cruising altitude and in the 500 plus range in speed he had to navigate to New York then descend from 30,000 ft lets say to 700 ft in order to strike the WTC all at this beloved speed of 560 mph. I don't think so. That plane wasn't going much over 200 mph. He couldn't navigate that plane into the building going 560mph at 700 ft.
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I would contend they never reached cruising altitude. Cell phone calls placed from both planes that hit the towers would indicate a lower altitude. The calls would be next to impossible above 8000 feet. A plane can descend on autopilot also.
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