Why Do the Libtards Keep Lying About Bush?

[lustylad]

There are legitimate reasons to be critical of our invasion of Iraq without resorting to blatant, outright lies about what GWB knew at the time. Here is the truth from someone who is in a position to know.


The Dangerous Lie That ‘Bush Lied’

Some journalists still peddle this canard as if it were fact. This is defamatory and could end up hurting the country.

By Laurence H. Silberman

Feb. 8, 2015 1:25 p.m. ET

In recent weeks, I have heard former Associated Press reporter Ron Fournier on Fox News twice asserting, quite offhandedly, that President George W. Bush “lied us into war in Iraq.”

I found this shocking. I took a leave of absence from the bench in 2004-05 to serve as co-chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction—a bipartisan body, sometimes referred to as the Robb-Silberman Commission. It was directed in 2004 to evaluate the intelligence community’s determination that Saddam Hussein possessed WMD—I am, therefore, keenly aware of both the intelligence provided to President Bush and his reliance on that intelligence as his primary casus belli. It is astonishing to see the “Bush lied” allegation evolve from antiwar slogan to journalistic fact.

The intelligence community’s 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) stated, in a formal presentation to President Bush and to Congress, its view that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction—a belief in which the NIE said it held a 90% level of confidence. That is about as certain as the intelligence community gets on any subject.

Recall that the head of the intelligence community, Central Intelligence Agency Director George Tenet, famously told the president that the proposition that Iraq possessed WMD was “a slam dunk.” Our WMD commission carefully examined the interrelationships between the Bush administration and the intelligence community and found no indication that anyone in the administration sought to pressure the intelligence community into its findings. As our commission reported, presidential daily briefs from the CIA dating back to the Clinton administration were, if anything, more alarmist about Iraq’s WMD than the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate.

Saddam had manifested sharp hostility toward America, including firing at U.S. planes patrolling the no-fly zone set up by the armistice agreement ending the first Iraq war. Saddam had also attempted to assassinate former President George H.W. Bush —a car-bombing plot was foiled—during Mr. Bush’s visit to Kuwait in 1993. But President George W. Bush based his decision to go to war on information about Saddam’s WMD. Accordingly, when Secretary of State Colin Powell formally presented the U.S. case to the United Nations, Mr. Powell relied entirely on that aspect of the threat from Iraq.

Our WMD commission ultimately determined that the intelligence community was “dead wrong” about Saddam’s weapons. But as I recall, no one in Washington political circles offered significant disagreement with the intelligence community before the invasion. The National Intelligence Estimate was persuasive—to the president, to Congress and to the media.

Granted, there were those who disagreed with waging war against Saddam even if he did possess WMD. Some in Congress joined Brent Scowcroft, a retired Air Force lieutenant general and former national security adviser, in publicly doubting the wisdom of invading Iraq. It is worth noting, however, that when Saddam was captured and interrogated, he told his interrogators that he had intended to seek revenge on Kuwait for its cooperation with the U.S. by invading again at a propitious time. This leads me to speculate that if the Bush administration had not gone to war in 2003 and Saddam had remained in power, the U.S. might have felt compelled to do so once Iraq again invaded Kuwait.

In any event, it is one thing to assert, then or now, that the Iraq war was ill-advised. It is quite another to make the horrendous charge that President Bush lied to or deceived the American people about the threat from Saddam.

I recently wrote to Ron Fournier protesting his accusation. His response, in an email, was to reiterate that “an objective reading of the events leads to only one conclusion: the administration . . . misinterpreted, distorted and in some cases lied about intelligence.” Although Mr. Fournier referred to “evidence” supporting his view, he did not cite any—and I do not believe there is any.

He did say correctly that “intelligence is never dispositive; it requires analysis and judgment, with the final call and responsibility resting with the president.” It is thus certainly possible to criticize President Bush for having believed what the CIA told him, although it seems to me that any president would have credited such confident assertions by the intelligence community. But to accuse the president of lying us into war must be seen as not only false, but as dangerously defamatory.

The charge is dangerous because it can take on the air of historical fact—with potentially dire consequences. I am reminded of a similarly baseless accusation that helped the Nazis come to power in Germany: that the German army had not really lost World War I, that the soldiers instead had been “stabbed in the back” by politicians.

Sometime in the future, perhaps long after most of us are gone, an American president may need to rely publicly on intelligence reports to support military action. It would be tragic if, at such a critical moment, the president’s credibility were undermined by memories of a false charge peddled by the likes of Ron Fournier.

Mr. Silberman, a senior federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, was co-chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction.

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[Yssup Rider]

SNICK!

[boardman]

^^^^^^^^^ That's the only other response they have.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

SNICK!

Can you try to speak more intelligibly AssUp? I don't think Judge Silberman can understand you.

[TheDaliLama]

[I B Hankering]

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[Yssup Rider]

Where can I link to that tittillating story, IBIdiot?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Where can I link to that tittillating story, IBIdiot?

You continue to show 'U B Idiot', you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM; the websites are clearly provided.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by boardman

^^^^^^^^^ That's the only other response they have.

Oh I have a fucking response to preemptive wars that do not mesh with that Constitution you seem to hold in such high esteem.

Fuck that bullshit.

[i'va biggen]

Same old " I'ts Clinton's fault" er "I'ts Bush's fault" er "It's Reagan's Fault"

[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Can you try to speak more intelligibly AssUp? I don't think Judge Silberman can understand you.

Would you like to Google how Bush and Cheney kept linking 9/11 and Saddam. Do you know how many folks thought Saddam was responsible for 9/11? You know how many times Bush tried to straighten that misconception?

So you can stick that two card monty of an article up your gullible ass.


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[Guest040616]

Try this link on for size!

http://commondreams.org/views03/0730-06.htm

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by bigtex

Try this link on for size!

http://commondreams.org/views03/0730-06.htm

Forty lies. In his eight years as president that would be five lies a year. Hell Obama does that every month.


Jim

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Forty lies. In his eight years as president that would be five lies a year. Hell Obama does that every month.

Let me know when Obama tells a lie that results in 4500+ American deaths.

And then we will renew the conversation.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by bigtex

Let me know when Obama tells a lie that results in 4500+ American deaths.

And then we will renew the conversation.

Not that I am trying to defend Bush, cause I am definitely no fan. But explain specifically what lie did Bush tell that directly resulted in deaths of 4500 Americans.


Jim