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oesman · 01-07-2015, 05:17 PM

Hey I'm not planning to get arrested and actually haven't been in a decade

. I've never been arrested in Texas, only Florida & New York. My record is clean, never had any actual convictions, yay for lawyers! However my early adulthood experiences got me in the habit of at least carrying enough cash to bail out of a misdemeanor, i.e. at the very least $500 bucks to handle a Class B in TX.

Thought I'd ask:

1. Does anyone else do this?

2. Specific to Texas / Houston, is there are a good chance cops might try to take the cash? I could see this happening if it was the proceeds of a crime, which would make sense if I were the provider, but I'm the one paying so it doesn't seem like a real possibility to me. However fuck knows what the cops think they can do around here.

3. In Houston/Texas can you readily post your own bail to get out real quick or is there some catch 22? I heard some southern states had weird rules, specifically heard Louisiana was weird, but could be bullshit.

4. Anything else I need to know in TX?

FoulRon · 01-07-2015, 05:42 PM

Hopefully the local lawyers here will speak up, but regarding #2, I could see the cops confiscating it as proof of criminal intent. That is, you were carrying a large amount of money obviously intending to use it for pay 4 play.

oesman · 01-07-2015, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoulRon

Hopefully the local lawyers here will speak up, but regarding #2, I could see the cops confiscating it as proof of criminal intent. That is, you were carrying a large amount of money obviously intending to use it for pay 4 play.

Usually the play money is in a clip, envelope or otherwise separate of my wallet. My wallet is one of those metal wallets, the reserve cash is some folded hundreds tucked between some cards on one side of it, like this:

http://www.getaddictedto.com/wp-cont...-Wallet-01.jpg

I'm sure they'll find it going through my wallet, just wonder how that plays v.s. play money cash that's more obvious.

oesman · 01-07-2015, 07:56 PM

Blah hate to bump my own post, but apparently I can't edit another post if it's older than 60 minutes:

It's my understanding prosecution would need to show remuneration or an agreement/offer of such remuneration for the purpose of sex. I wonder if they can really claim my other stash of cash is for P4P. My logic is that to prosecute me they must have some evidence of what the nature of my transaction was. Such as evidence of an agreement of X dollars for Y act, or at least an implied contract for sex which I imagine would still need to be quantified as a dollar amount.

Assuming my two stashes of cash are of different amounts, one matching X to the dollar and one NOT matching X, it should be obvious which amount of cash is related to my alleged crime/intent. However I imagine that cops couldn't care less and this would be a matter to resolve in court to get my money back, assuming cops take it.

Of course I would never agree to, discuss, suggest or offer a dollar amount in relation to any kind of sexual conduct with provider that I haven't seen yet. When scouting a new provider I stick to those with reviews, published menu/rates and a pattern of behavior indicating her TCB skills are good and she understands the business. I've never had a provider matching this criteria bring up money on the phone/email/sms or when first meeting me in person.

Even with providers I've seen regularly I've only discussed prices in person after our session ends, like "hey what would you charge me for X hours with you and your friend next time I see you"? So if I were to be arrested I imagine they would need to prove an implied contract between myself and the escort. Which may or may not be difficult, I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine its significantly more difficult than a recording or testimony of a quantified number or agreement to a number coming out of my mouth.

PS: I also wish we had bigger bills in circulation... I can only fit 7 notes in my metal wallet due to various cards. My family in Moscow make me so jealous with their access to the 500 euro notes make me wish we had them in America. Russia doesn't actually use Euros but they're common, just as dollars are. I could put over 3,500 euros (>$4k USD) in that wallet vs. $700 USD

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orlyo · 01-07-2015, 08:06 PM

Interesting question that I would like to the know the answer to myself. It would be nice to post your own bail with cash you have on hand to get out quickly. I've read elsewhere on this board that cops in other districts in other states may actually even drive you to the ATM for you to draw out money to make bail. No way in Houston, I'm sure.

It all seems risky, though, so I personally am resigning myself to memorizing some bail bondsmen phone numbers.

seanj317 · 02-08-2015, 08:07 PM

I have a visa cash card with 1k available. Prepaid. I think that will work. Its been my backup plan for a year now. I can always tell the wife I had to work really late.....

Dartswinger · 02-09-2015, 02:29 AM

Bad idea here in Texas. I know for a fact that any cash you have on you will be confiscated by cops. And it will just disappear.

Gotyour6 · 02-09-2015, 06:10 PM

Give money to a close friend.

thatsme67003 · 02-09-2015, 06:49 PM

You can always put a bondsman on retainer just saying

tonicman5691 · 02-09-2015, 07:38 PM

The cash on you *could* be confiscated as being evidence of the act in question ---- goes to the intent of the party. While the cash is not dispositive of its use, if you were apprehended in the party of a worker with the cash on you it could serve as an indicia or proof of your intent.

Some jurisdictions also have on the books "loitering" laws -- like in California there is a charge of loitering with intent to commit prostitution. The act of being in the close presence of a worker or just driving in circles and making a clear sign to engage them is enough to trigger an inquiry. Having cash on you is considered proof of intent. And such cash is subject to confiscation if you are arrested.

So having the cash on you for a bond is not necessarily a good thing in this line.

Mr MojoRisin · 02-10-2015, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oesman

Hey I'm not planning to get arrested and actually haven't been in a decade

. I've never been arrested in Texas, only Florida & New York. My record is clean, never had any actual convictions, yay for lawyers! However my early adulthood experiences got me in the habit of at least carrying enough cash to bail out of a misdemeanor, i.e. at the very least $500 bucks to handle a Class B in TX.

Thought I'd ask:

1. Does anyone else do this?

2. Specific to Texas / Houston, is there are a good chance cops might try to take the cash? I could see this happening if it was the proceeds of a crime, which would make sense if I were the provider, but I'm the one paying so it doesn't seem like a real possibility to me. However fuck knows what the cops think they can do around here.

3. In Houston/Texas can you readily post your own bail to get out real quick or is there some catch 22? I heard some southern states had weird rules, specifically heard Louisiana was weird, but could be bullshit.

4. Anything else I need to know in TX?

These days if you're caught with a substantial amount of cash on you they may suspect you made a drug transaction, just saying.

Jim

NewNameSameLife · 02-10-2015, 08:17 AM

Problem is, $500 may not cover it, among all the other potential issues mentioned. I have had normal non criminal traffic violations that I missed court for have a higher than $500 bond, and none of them were serious (like DUI, wreckless, etc)

Harris County, at least last time I was processed there, will not allow you to use credit / debit cards to post your own bail, and IIRC they wont let you post cash either, they just take the cash and when you get out they give you a check back for the amount.

You would be better with a bondsman on retainer or a trusted friend. That $500 with a bondsman is also going to cover you a lot further than you paying $500 cash - youre easily going to be able to post a $2000 bond with a bondsman for $500, vs only being able to post up to $500 yourself.

The system in houston / harris county is almost designed to NOT bond out. In almost all cases you WILL be there for about 24-36 hours, bond or not. They move VERY slow, and in most cases they make it a longer process to bond out than to just see the judge, where you may be able to plead it right out, or you may be able to be released without bond after that first appearance (depending on your background and the judge.) Last time I was at HC, I went in at 5pm, saw the judge at 1230a, was cleared for release without posting a dime, but still wasnt actually released until 6PM that day.