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Originally Posted by Wakeup
There is no such thing as common sense. Society only determines what is right and wrong today...not tomorrow..and they only do it in a legal sense. Everything that is not a law, is just a preference, and preference is a concept that is purely individual...
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^ lol - You crack me up WU showing your apparent extensive background in general psychology. I do appreciate your efforts to engage me but I just 'think' you need to 'think' a little deeper. In a legal sense society actually determines what's right and wrong
today and tomorrow for it takes more than a day to change the law on the books. ;-) Unless of course we're talking anarchy but let me guess you didn't mean this literally you meant it figuratively? In either case I'm still right for if they didn't determine what was right tomorrow we'd have a plan on the books for ceasing to be a 'Nation of Laws' but we clearly don't. ;-)
As for your preference view while there may be some nuggets of truth I think that view is basically wrong as well. While I understand individuals make up society I also understand that majority rules. So preference is not a concept that's
purely individual, you should realize that preference (as it pertains to LAW) is based on collective viewpoints. There are some preferences (even with majority) that don't get written into law. In my view these preferences eventually fall into the category of 'perception' being reality which there is a long list of. If I tie this back to my original point about hi-grading the language of this profession then you've clearly not convinced me to concede the point.
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Originally Posted by Wakeup
Did you read that before you typed it? "Refined cultures" determine "acceptable speech"? There you go again, suggesting that certain people determine which words are right and wrong. Are you one of those people
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No - I actually read it as I typed it but I did think about what I was going to type beforehand. I hate to seem as if I like disagreeing with you for the sake of disagreeing but this is another good example. In the context of the corporate workforce, I used the term 'refined cultures' as I specifically chose not to use words such as conservative or progressive. You're a smart enough guy so I know you understand what I mean by refined or progressive work cultures determining acceptable speech. Ever been in a board meeting vs a team meeting? Try dumbing down the vernacular in a board meeting and see what happens.
Certain people do determine which words are acceptable not only in government but in private enterprises as well. I'm one of those people who wants to know the culture and if it can be improved upon I ask the question how can we improve it? I may be naive to a point but even that naivety is likely overstated. More people around the country are pushing for legal change in this business like so many other issues (i.e the issues in California and Colorado) and any positive step in that direction would help starting with language.
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Originally Posted by Wakeup
I'm not here to discuss the legalities of using certain words...they have this thing called the First Amendment...it's pretty well known in that regard...and I'm sure you can go look up some court cases concerning any legality of it you want...
The sayer is nothing...only the hearer gives power to words...and even then, it's only perceived power, not real. If there's a problem with a word, the hearers have the problem they need to deal with, not the sayer...
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Weren't you listening? lol - We live in America where perception about character is reality. I know I'm a black guy. ;-)
Side rhetorical question > I digress but being in the position you're in have you actually thought through how legalizing this profession would help or hurt you financially?
It might be a stretch on my part (a flaw of mine is projecting deeper meanings even from simple things) but you might want to give it some thought as it seems (by virtue of your views in the greater context of my argument) you're angling toward it hurting more than helping due to a potential increase in market competition for advertising.
Nice chatting with ya.
