OBAMA TO CONGRESS: FUCK YOU ON KEYSTONE COMPROMISE...

[BigLouie]

What is amazing is that all the ultra conservatives on here seem to have no problem that this law will give TransCanada the power of eminate domain over private property in the US. If Obama was pushing a law that did that you would be all over it with unending post

[Whirlaway]

It isn't giving TransCanada the power of eminent domain.

Originally Posted by BigLouie

What is amazing is that all the ultra conservatives on here seem to have no problem that this law will give TransCanada the power of eminate domain over private property in the US. If Obama was pushing a law that did that you would be all over it with unending post

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

If Obama was pushing a law that did that you would be all over it with unending post

They always are, no matter what the man does.

I heard he took a shit in the WHITE House today. That's gotta piss some of these yahoos off!

[rioseco]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

What is amazing is that all the ultra conservatives on here seem to have no problem that this law will give TransCanada the power of eminate domain over private property in the US. If Obama was pushing a law that did that you would be all over it with unending post

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling ! "

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

It isn't giving TransCanada the power of eminent domain.

In an email after the publication of this article, TransCanada said it has reached voluntary agreements to secure 100% of the private easements required for the pipeline in Montana and South Dakota. It has 76% of the easements required for the route in Nebraska, it said. In general, the company said it has had to use eminent domain with only 2% of landowners.http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamescon...tone-pipeline/

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

They always are, no matter what the man does.

I heard he took a shit in the WHITE House today. That's gotta piss some of these yahoos off!

Obama is too righteous to ever need a bowel movement.

No subsidies, no eminent domain, no special tax breaks. If this is such a great deal, the oil companies can play by the rules, and pay for it themselves.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

You do understand that time is money. Which is more valuable 10 million dollars today or 10 million dollars 20 years from now?

Because according to you they are both worth the exact same amount and one is no different than the other.

Bravo, bravo fagboy! Congratulations! Just the answer I was looking for. You just acknowledged the TIME VALUE OF MONEY. Everyone clap! Let's all give it up for fagboy! You finally admit if we pay SS and Medicare taxes during our working years, we're entitled when we retire to more than the simple dollar amounts we put in. So why did it take your stubborn, arrogant, ignorant fucking ass so long to acknowledge such an elementary concept?

Three months ago you kept denying the whole idea and ducking and deflecting and bitching and moaning like a cornered rat – remember? If you had seen the light earlier, you could have saved everyone's time and not made yourself look like such a complete idiot.

Originally Posted by WTF

Jesus Fucking Christ would you quit dropping 'time value of money' term. You sound like a three year old that just learnt a new term.

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1127075


Oh, and by the way, I never said 10 million dollars today is no different than 10 million dollars 20 years from now. You're making stuff up again, fagboy. I said it is not a “subsidy” for the government to allow companies to depreciate their assets faster for tax purposes. If you can postpone your tax liability in this way, it clearly has value. It's an incentive to invest but not a subsidy. A subsidy is when the government permanently reduces your tax liability. Or pays you to buy something. Or pays you to sell something at less than cost.

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[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

If you can postpone your tax liability in this way, it clearly has value. It's an incentive to invest but not a subsidy.

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God Damn Obamacare wasn't a tax either was it Einstein!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Bravo, bravo fagboy! Congratulations! Just the answer I was looking for. You just acknowledged the TIME VALUE OF MONEY. Everyone clap! Let's all give it up for fagboy! You finally admit if we pay SS and Medicare taxes during our working years, we're entitled when we retire to more than the simple dollar amounts we put in. So why did it take your stubborn, arrogant, ignorant fucking ass so long to acknowledge such an elementary concept?

Three months ago you kept denying the whole idea and ducking and deflecting and bitching and moaning like a cornered rat – remember? If you had seen the light earlier, you could have saved everyone's time and not made yourself look like such a complete idiot.





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What you failed to understand then and now is that Medicare/SS Taxes are paying for your parents care....not a fucking savings for yours', you dumb fuck. So it is a present value asset , paying for a present value liability!

Fucking things I have to teach you Tea Billies!

[Jackie S]

The Senate voted the Pipeline down this afternoon, one vote shy.

We will see what happens after January. The President still had veto power, but maybe enough Dems will see their political futures as more important than The Demagogue's legacy and vote to over ride.

[BigLouie]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

But if you have a linked source to your claim.....post it.

BTW, why do we have to always ask for you to give us link to your claims

Actually I have in two other threads dealing with the pipeline. And in both you did not want to believe what is written because it goes against what you believe. Why should I try a third time to provide you with links to stories on how it is obsolete.

If you want people to see things your way maybe you should reconsider your position that only what you say is the truth. That anyone else's position, if it does not match yours, must be incorrect. And instead of asking for links how about a little research on your own.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

The Senate voted the Pipeline down this afternoon, one vote shy.

We will see what happens after January. The President still had veto power, but maybe enough Dems will see their political futures as more important than The Demagogue's legacy and vote to over ride.

As the "onion skins" of lies by this administration are systematically peeled back and more fraud is exposed, the defections should increase. There will be new faces on board with some of the "Nays" gone and more than 60 ... "bean counters" say more like 66 to pass....

.....even with "LanNothing" from Louisiana gone.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

And instead of asking for links how about a little research on your own.

The U.S. Supreme Court has already affirmed that private companies can exercise the right of eminent domain for quasi-governmental purposes, and Congress has the authority pursuant to the (interstate) commerce clause to authorize a private company to exercise the right approved by the Court.

Some might call that "the rule of law," while others make it purely "political."

Like you!

But since you are an Obaminable Loyalist .. it's understandable.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

What is amazing is that all the ultra conservatives on here seem to have no problem that this law will give TransCanada the power of eminate domain over private property in the US. If Obama was pushing a law that did that you would be all over it with unending post

I'd be interested on who you thought the ultra conservatives "here" were and why.

You don't think the railroads TransCanada are using to ship now were built without using the power of eminent domain?

Idiot.

What I find hilarious is you and WDF the moronic buffoon are bringing up the same disproven Keystone XL arguments you progressives brought up 6-12 months ago.

Idiots.

[Whirlaway]

I don't doubt that Keystone oil may not be needed for domestic consumption. I also think the left has a reasonable argument to make when they ask "why bring Canada oil across the lower 48" !

But...they can't be trusted to do the right thing for America.

The anti-Keystone pro Obama crowd would have more credibility (and support) in opposing Keystone if their broader agenda wasn't so opposed to fossil fuels, fracking, and energy independence for America (drill baby drill). They have under cut their own anti-Keystone argument by being fanatically opposed to domestic drilling, refineries, and pipeline expansion here at home.

Obama's war on coal and fossil fuels has made most Americans not trust the left's energy agenda.