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Old 11-15-2014, 11:55 AM   #1
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Default OBAMA TO CONGRESS: FUCK YOU ON KEYSTONE COMPROMISE...

Looks like the Democrat talking point of "time to compromise" is falling on deaf ears in the White House.
As House approves Keystone pipeline bill, Obama veto grows more likely
"...in a news conference in Burma on Friday, the president rejected two of the main arguments made by pipeline proponents, saying he had “to constantly push back against this idea that somehow the Keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the United States or is somehow lowering gas prices.”

“It is providing the ability of Canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the Gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else,” he said. “That doesn’t have an impact on U.S. gas prices.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...acc_story.html
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:56 AM   #2
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Old 11-15-2014, 12:35 PM   #3
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Looks like the Democrat talking point of "time to compromise" is falling on deaf ears in the White House.
As House approves Keystone pipeline bill, Obama veto grows more likely
"...in a news conference in Burma on Friday, the president rejected two of the main arguments made by pipeline proponents, saying he had “to constantly push back against this idea that somehow the Keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the United States or is somehow lowering gas prices.”

“It is providing the ability of Canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the Gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else,” he said. “That doesn’t have an impact on U.S. gas prices.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...acc_story.html
So Odumbo's "#Grubering" to his "stupid voter" constituency again. Everyone else with an ounce of sense knows that putting more of a product on the world market will help drive down the consumer costs for that product regardless of where the consumer actually lives. If the Chinese are buying Canadian oil, that means other producers must price their product accordingly to remain competitive with remaining buyers: it's the economic law of supply and demand.
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Old 11-15-2014, 12:52 PM   #4
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He's not just saying "fuck you" to a Keystone compromise. He's also saying "fuck you" to Canada! Meanwhile, we will continue buying and refining DIRTY OIL from Venezuela instead of replacing it with Canadian crude. Now that makes sense. Say "fuck you" to our loyal and supportive friends to the North because we want to prop up the anti-US, Castro-loving morons in Caracas!
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Old 11-15-2014, 12:56 PM   #5
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Sounds like he is doing to Mitch what Mitch pledged to do to him when the Dem's were in control. You crying about him acting like a Tea Party non compromiser?



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He's not just saying "fuck you" to a Keystone compromise. He's also saying "fuck you" to Canada! Meanwhile, we will continue buying and refining DIRTY OIL from Venezuela instead of replacing it with Canadian crude. Now that makes sense. Say "fuck you" to our loyal and supportive friends to the North because we want to prop up the anti-US, Castro-loving morons in Caracas!
Fuck Canada and their socialized healthcare!
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He's not just saying "fuck you" to a Keystone compromise. He's also saying "fuck you" to Canada! Meanwhile, we will continue buying and refining DIRTY OIL from Venezuela instead of replacing it with Canadian crude. Now that makes sense. Say "fuck you" to our loyal and supportive friends to the North because we want to prop up the anti-US, Castro-loving morons in Caracas!
... and while Odumbo subsidizes Brazil's "dirty oil" production for Chinese consumption with the U.S. taxpayer's dollars.
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Old 11-15-2014, 01:05 PM   #8
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Default Jobs are in thr building of the PIPE LIne.

Thousands of new HIGH Paying jobs would be created building this PIPE LINE.. Repulicans need to do a better job of explaing shit to the puplic. Welders make upwards of 35 to 40 bucks an hour working on thoses kinds of job, They go home and build houses, buy boats and trucks, eat out. and by the way the whole time they are off at work they live in hotels and and eat out. Thats just the welders. All kinds of crafts and jobs are needed to complete such a project.
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Old 11-15-2014, 01:25 PM   #9
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Looks like the Democrat talking point of "time to compromise" is falling on deaf ears in the White House.
As House approves Keystone pipeline bill, Obama veto grows more likely
"...in a news conference in Burma on Friday, the president rejected two of the main arguments made by pipeline proponents, saying he had “to constantly push back against this idea that somehow the Keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the United States or is somehow lowering gas prices.”

“It is providing the ability of Canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the Gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else,” he said. “That doesn’t have an impact on U.S. gas prices.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...acc_story.html
Whirlaway with all due respect it looks like you and a lot of Republicans and Conservatives are not looking at both sides of the issue- heres an article that you as a supporter of the Keystone Pipeline can't deny::


The Keystone XL pipeline is a great test case. The disastrous environmental impact of the pipeline is obvious. Simply mining the tar sands — let alone consuming the actual oil down the road — will release an incredible amount of carbon into the atmosphere.
Then the thick tar sands crude would go into the 1,179 mile long Keystone XL pipeline, winding past family farms and playgrounds and lakes and water reservoirs as it makes its way from Canada to Texas. The current Keystone pipeline, which runs from Canada to the Midwest, leaked a record 12 times just in its first year of operation.
Even if you're a conservative who doesn't believe the vast majority of the world's scientists agree that climate change is both real and man-made, hopefully you still believe in facts. And the facts suggest that the Keystone XL pipeline is a bad deal not just for America's environment but also for our economy.

In 2008, in its original application to the State Department seeking pipeline approval, the company TransCanada said the Keystone XL pipeline would involve "a peak workforce of approximately 3,500 to 4,200 construction personnel." But by 2011, when the pipeline project had become controversial, TransCanada told a House subcommittee the project would create 20,000 jobs. TransCanada and the American Petroleum Institute have also alleged that an additional 119,000 jobs would be directly or indirectly created by the pipeline. Yet an independent academic study found the project would indeed create "no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years" and that, in fact, spills and the cost of damage from the pipeline could kill more jobs than it creates in the long term.
Well, at least the pipeline would help working families in America by lowing gas prices, right? Wrong. According to analysis by both CNN and Bloomberg, the pipeline would actually raise gas prices by creating a way for oil produced in the Midwest to make it to coastal refineries for exporting.
What the Keystone XL pipeline clearly would do is divert investment away from renewable energy — and investments in renewable energy produce more bang for the buck. Every $1 million invested in fossil fuels creates just 5.3 jobs while the same amount invested in clean energy creates 16.7 jobs.

Whirlaway do you still want to support the Pipeline even after the undisputed facts that it will actually raise oil prices and damages to the ecosystems?
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Old 11-15-2014, 01:27 PM   #10
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Sounds like he is doing to Mitch what Mitch pledged to do to him when the Dem's were in control. You crying about him acting like a Tea Party non compromiser?



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So, if he's acting like a Tea Party non-compromiser... that must make him part of the "Party of No" by your Liberal talking point definitions... right?
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Old 11-15-2014, 01:58 PM   #11
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So, if he's acting like a Tea Party non-compromiser... that must make him part of the "Party of No" by your Liberal talking point definitions... right?
Yep....now the Dem's can be the party of no and listen to the GOP cry about not being able to get anything done!
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Undisputed? The State Department's Final Environmental Report says there are no global warming impacts.

What happened? In your own thread you said the Keystone would be issue that we could get both sides to agree on? Were you not inlcuding Obama in your equation?

Wellendowed: OK, Time We Compromise....you wrote:

"2) KeyStone Pipeline; I am pretty confident that this will be signed into law by obama- I personally don't think the pipeline would be a bad idea if all the proper analysis has been completed."


Make up your mind.

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...39&postcount=1



From 11 months ago On Keystone:
State Department releases Keystone XL final environmental impact statement

The State Department concluded in its final environmental assessment issued Friday that the proposed Keystone XL pipeline would be unlikely to alter global greenhouse gas emissions, but officials cautioned that they are still weighing whether the project would meet the test of President Obama’s broader climate strategy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...ba3_story.html


This POS president has been holding up Keystone (and the massive economic spinoffs) for what reason ?

Answer: To punish the fossil fuel/fracking industry and the communities that rely on it?


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Whirlaway do you still want to support the Pipeline even after the undisputed facts that it will actually raise oil prices and damages to the ecosystems?
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Old 11-15-2014, 02:19 PM   #13
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Bill Clinton backs the Keystone...so did 31 Democrats in yesterday's HR vote.

I hope Obama vetoes the pipeline bill. It will only strengthen the perception that Obama is an out of touch despot.
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Old 11-15-2014, 02:24 PM   #14
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No. I want Obama to be forced to veto a bill that has bipartisan support and will create thousands of well paying shovel ready jobs.



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Old 11-15-2014, 02:33 PM   #15
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No. I want Obama to be forced to veto a bill that has bipartisan support and will create thousands of well paying shovel ready jobs.
Why do you want that? Wouldn't you rather create the jobs than fuck with President Blackula?
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