crazy vegas adventures

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

No real hostility intended, but I hate people like you at the table. Why are you worried about telling other people how/where to bet their money? Screw your chi... don't be that guy that tries to dictate where I place my own damn money.

But, even though I know the math says otherwise, I do the same thing when I bet the don't pass. I don't place odds, just the flat bet.

The El Dorado in Shreveport lets you place 100x odds, just FYI.

Great info! i hope i like their tables.

i hearya Caroline. when its the odd player flying solo, i do it as a courtesy. i only say it once and leave it at that.
if it's a group that is getting inside my head, i will either ask nicely or sometimes, i will flip my bet. as they say, if u can't beat em, join em. but if i cant get the energy right and its bothering me, honestly i just pass the dice or go take a break.
but ur very impressive! got a good head to go with ur smokin hot body! lol
by the way, did u wanna hear how rory's story ends? if the ayes win, gonna write the Conclusion tonite.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

And pxmcc, there is one game in the house (sometimes) that has positive expected value. Video poker. Certain pay tables on certain games have up to something like 100.76% expected value, IF played perfectly, averaged out ad infinitum. Very few people actually manage to make a living at it, but it does happen.

alright ur gonna have to teach me that one! i will teach you everything i know about dice, including sets, perfect shooting techniques, etc. i got to learn a lot playing on my home table. i also got to learn on my home table (and in the real world, unfortunately lol) how awful martingale-style betting progressions are. if i had hewed to anti-martingale style progressions only, i would b worth quite a bit more than i am presently. going to fill in the details in about 6 months.

[CarolineDavenport]

I'm not going to lie, I could take or leave your story because I've heard better ones on gambling forums, and been present for a few that could rival it. A couple of the things you've said made me giggle, like the Cortez being impressed by your measley 7k. ANY casino in Vegas, even the downtown locations (my preference as well... I'm a fan of the Nugget) sees that much money multiple times on a daily basis, it's a non-event. They were probably just making side bets on how fast the new blood would lose his ass. They also get concerned with mid-range gamblers they've never seen before, because those are the ones that get crazy and possibly violent when they do eventually lose it all. Also, Benihana is not really expensive. :P

Your obsession with the votes is a bit irritating. Either finish the story or don't, but stop pestering people to vote. It looks attention-whorish.

And I can't teach you to play video poker. I'm not a grinder like that. There are plenty of sites that will teach you how to play... but you need to get really, really good at remembering all the little intricate contingency strategies. I don't have that kind of patience. And when I say that people make a living at it.. I mean people with $1M+ bank rolls who make $50k/yr grinding for 10 hours a day, 5 days a week at quarter machines. Not my idea of fun. Probably not yours either.

[oilfieldscum]

You guys and gals are assuming the house is playing straight and not cheating.

[CarolineDavenport]

Why cheat and risk your license when the edge is already in your favor? All they have to do is offer the games and let the money roll in.

[oilfieldscum]

Risk the license? In Vegas maybe but in all these other Podunk places an envelope with some cash is all it takes.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

I'm not going to lie, I could take or leave your story because I've heard better ones on gambling forums, and been present for a few that could rival it. A couple of the things you've said made me giggle, like the Cortez being impressed by your measley 7k. ANY casino in Vegas, even the downtown locations (my preference as well... I'm a fan of the Nugget) sees that much money multiple times on a daily basis, it's a non-event. They were probably just making side bets on how fast the new blood would lose his ass. They also get concerned with mid-range gamblers they've never seen before, because those are the ones that get crazy and possibly violent when they do eventually lose it all. Also, Benihana is not really expensive. :P

Your obsession with the votes is a bit irritating. Either finish the story or don't, but stop pestering people to vote. It looks attention-whorish.

And I can't teach you to play video poker. I'm not a grinder like that. There are plenty of sites that will teach you how to play... but you need to get really, really good at remembering all the little intricate contingency strategies. I don't have that kind of patience. And when I say that people make a living at it.. I mean people with $1M+ bank rolls who make $50k/yr grinding for 10 hours a day, 5 days a week at quarter machines. Not my idea of fun. Probably not yours either.

i gotcha Caroline. the issue was the only people posting were haters. why should i put time and effort into writing the story if all i'm going to get is grief? i don't give a flip about showing off, etc. the story goes karmic awesome at the end, but why should i try to get there if if i'm just gettin beamed by rotten tomatoes? i figure that there are a fair number of people who want to read the story, but how am i supposed to know when im only hearing from the haters? there are probably many people like Georgio who want to hear the ending but would prefer to lay low. i dont have a problem with that, but i need to hear from people like that to motivate me to continue.

finally, the story is only as good as it is. are there better stories? sure. are there worse stories? sure. if it sucks too bad, just say no, u don't want to hear the ending. that's fine; that's why i asked.
so could u give me a yes or no? if no, just say it. we're all adults here. i'll still respect you in the morning. lol.

as to how many people sit down at the roulette table at the Cortez with over 7000 in chips, you think it happens all the time; i think it almost never happens. i think you are confusing what happens downtown with what happens on the Strip. i think we agree to disagree. let's leave it at that. im open to the possibility that you might be right, and if so, i stand corrected.

as to video poker, optimal play producing a positive expectation value seems a little hard to believe. if true, an MIT or CAL-TECH team will be on that faster than flies to shit. so my assessment is sounds implausible, but stranger things have happened.

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

as to video poker, optimal play producing a positive expectation value seems a little hard to believe. if true, an MIT or CAL-TECH team will be on that faster than flies to shit. so my assessment is sounds implausible, but stranger things have happened.

http://www.casinocenter.com/playing-positive/

you should know better than to argue with feisty "redheads" with perfect breasts and brains to boot...

[boardman]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

yes. dice players refer to throwing as shooting. the person with the dice is called the 'shooter.'

Next you're gonna tell me there's skill in pulling the lever on a one armed bandit?

[Guest021817-2]

Originally Posted by boardman

Next you're gonna tell me there's skill in pulling the lever on a one armed bandit?

E'rbody knows you stalk the old white hairs... Then after they leave... ( or go to the bathroom ) you swipe their machines. Ha!

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by boardman

Next you're gonna tell me there's skill in pulling the lever on a one armed bandit?

it's all in the wrist...

[CarolineDavenport]

pxmcc, choose to believe what you want, but here's a site that will lay it all out for you:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/

The reason MIT or Cal-Tech geniuses don't get in on that action is because usually these are quarter machines... so you have to grind away hour after hour, day after day, month after month before you see any profit. Like I said... these people are making 50k a year doing this as a full time job. Why would a math whiz waste their time? Counting cards? Sure, there's usually at least a $5 minimum, $500 maximum... you can make some serious cash quickly. But video poker on a quarter machine? Not a get rich quick scheme. There was a story about a casino back in the day that accidentally put a positive expectation payout table on a $5 machine and a guy took a huge amount of money from the place before they caught on. Hasn't happened since.

For future reference, I try not to ever post anything without verifiable evidence. Keeps me from looking like an idiot when I get called on the floor. Try to do some research before you go questioning my posts. It'll save you some heartache.

[pyramider]

Caroline, posting taint photos is a sure fire way to prevent heartache ... ijs.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

pxmcc, choose to believe what you want, but here's a site that will lay it all out for you:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/

The reason MIT or Cal-Tech geniuses don't get in on that action is because usually these are quarter machines... so you have to grind away hour after hour, day after day, month after month before you see any profit. Like I said... these people are making 50k a year doing this as a full time job. Why would a math whiz waste their time? Counting cards? Sure, there's usually at least a $5 minimum, $500 maximum... you can make some serious cash quickly. But video poker on a quarter machine? Not a get rich quick scheme. There was a story about a casino back in the day that accidentally put a positive expectation payout table on a $5 machine and a guy took a huge amount of money from the place before they caught on. Hasn't happened since.

For future reference, I try not to ever post anything without verifiable evidence. Keeps me from looking like an idiot when I get called on the floor. Try to do some research before you go questioning my posts. It'll save you some heartache.

Caroline you rock!! will you marry me? kidding!! lol. i'm not the marrying kind. but damn i bet we would have some smart kids, but only if they got your brain instead of the rocks rattling around inside my noggin, in lieu of any actual grey matter. lol

[Russ38]

Originally Posted by SpiceItUp

it's all in the wrist...

Lol....what's funny is the 100 yr old ladies chain smoking Camel non-filters with oxygen bottles strapped to their wheelchairs playing the penny slots 24/7....tough old broads.... ....at least they're having fun huh.....