Possible Ebola case in NY City?

[Whirlaway]

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Well, the NY doctor lied:

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/ebola-d...ravels-police/

The doctor lied about where he had been until the cops tracked his movements on his subway fare card.

How do we do contact tracing to try to warn people who were possibly exposed if even the doctors who are supposed to know better are lying?

I can understand why an African villager who lives under a corrupt dictator might lie, but what it this asshat's excuse?

Most likely, he KNEW it would look bad if the word got out that he had gone bowling and eaten in restaurants within a week of treating Ebola patients.

So he lied to avoid public condemnation.
.....

Maybe he lied because he visited a couple of providers or civilians. Remember, two other people were contacted and monitored. Maybe he didn't want his gf to know.

What I don't understand is the incredible inconvenience the healthcare workers portray themselves as undergoing. So you traveled half way across the world where you could have been hacked to death or died from ebola, malaria or some other disease but you can't stay in your apt for 3 weeks.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

And you stood me up at Love Field TWICE, Fraud Flintstone!

I don't know about twice, but the one time I saw you there, you looked so scrawny I couldn't bring myself to stomp your ugly face into the ground. Consider it an act of mercy.

BTW - on that instant message you sent me about suing your doctor for laughing at the tears on your anus and his inappropriate snickering with his nurse about the anal enlargement secondary to gay sex, I just deleted it and request, again, that you quit sending me instant messages

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Maybe he lied because he visited a couple of providers or civilians. Remember, two other people were contacted and monitored. Maybe he didn't want his gf to know.

What I don't understand is the incredible inconvenience the healthcare workers portray themselves as undergoing. So you traveled half way across the world where you could have been hacked to death or died from ebola, malaria or some other disease but you can't stay in your apt for 3 weeks.

Lions and Tigers and Bears ....Oh My!


How many folks have Ebola in this country? Can any of you Chicken Little fear mongers tell me the number? Could you tell me the number of non healthcare workers that have caught Ebola?

Jesus I can't wait for the election to be over so you numbnuts will quit being spoon fed fear to get you off your ass and vote for the anti science party.

[gnadfly]

According to Obama, none. Then somebody from Liberia came over and made him look like a liar. Then his CDC guy said any hospital could treat an Ebola patient. Then two healthcare workers got it by treating the Duncan. Then the CDC "updated the protocol". Then the government sent a special jet to pick them up. The special hospital with special suits treated those people. Can you tell me how much money was spent on treating those folks? How about keep track those possibly exposed to the Ebola virus in Dallas?

The doctor in NYC said he doesn't know how he got ebola! He said there was no protocol breach in Liberia. Then he said he didn't break quarantine either!

But keep pissing in the wind! First you said it was the Republicans scaremongering. That was disproven! Then you said it was about "the science"...yet if were about the science the CDC wouldn't have to make updates to its protocols.

Now Obama said its impossible to keep Ebola from coming to this country.

Do you know what my answer is to your 10 people dead from Ebola over/under question?

You are truly a moronic buffoon.

[Mr MojoRisin]

I found this Video. This is Amber Vinson one of the nurses from Dallas boarding a plane to Atlanta to get treatment for Ebola. I find a few things rather unusual. First of all four men accompany her donned in hazmat gear. Amber is only wearing a Biotech gown and a particle mask. They take her out of the Ambulance on a gurney then she walks up some stairs to enter the plane on her own power. Why couldn't she just walk out of the ambulance. Then there is a guy holding a clip board totally unprotected. If this disease is so contagious why wouldn't the guy with the clip board at least be wearing some sort of mask to cover his mouth, also shouldn't Amber Vinson be carried up the stairs on a back board or by some similar means.

Jim

http://youtu.be/1_ccKgASV3E

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Do you know what my answer is to your 10 people dead from Ebola over/under question?

I'll only know it if you tell it

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by WTF

Please show me a place on earth where Ebola patients are giving blood.

I never said that. Stop trying to put words in other people's mouths. That used to be IBHankering's job. Now it is Zanziboob's job.

I asked YOU if you would take a blood transfusion from someone who may have been exposed to Ebola - even though they were not yet showing symptoms. Like the NY doctor's GF.

I also asked if you would take a blood transfusion from the NY doctor if you could go back in time to the day before he started showing symptoms.

My point is that it is transmissible BEFORE symptoms show up. But only under certain circumstances - like blood donors and sex partners.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

You're trying to tote yourself as the expert here cause you've done a little research. Well your research is a bit flawed and your knowledge beforehand on infectious diseases is quite limited. If you can't see the hype in this Ebola outbreak maybe it's you who is ignorant and stubborn.

I never said I was an expert in anything.

I am merely pointing out the flaws in your conspiratorial assertions. You don't need an expert for that. Any amateur will do.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

OK, that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I found this Video. This is Amber Vinson one of the nurses from Dallas boarding a plane to Atlanta to get treatment for Ebola. I find a few things rather unusual. First of all four men accompany her donned in hazmat gear. Amber is only wearing a Biotech gown and a particle mask.

She doesn't need a hazmat suit. She already has Ebola. The mask is just there to stop her from coughing all over things.

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

They take her out of the Ambulance on a gurney then she walks up some stairs to enter the plane on her own power. Why couldn't she just walk out of the ambulance.

When you are a patient in an ambulance, you ride on a gurney. Protocol. Even if you have a broken thumb and can walk just fine.

She had been diagnosed as having the virus. But she was not sick yet. So she had no problem walking.

They also can't get the gurney on that small plane. So she has to walk at some point.

See how easy this is when you aren't bending over backward to find conspiracies?

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Then there is a guy holding a clip board totally unprotected. If this disease is so contagious why wouldn't the guy with the clip board at least be wearing some sort of mask to cover his mouth

Because she wasn't showing symptoms yet. So, he probably thought he was safe.

The others were probably overly cautious or they are responsible for treating other patients and cannot afford to get even a spec of virus on them.

And how do you even know if he came from the hospital? What if he was some guy who worked at the airport for the company that owned the plane? He wouldn't even have a suit.

The 4 guys getting out of the ambulance probably told him to stay 5-6 feet away. But they were stuck in the ambulance with her so they wore hazmats suits in case she started vomiting.

See how easy this is when you aren't bending over backward to find conspiracies?

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

also shouldn't Amber Vinson be carried up the stairs on a back board or by some similar means.

See above. How do they get a board through the door with 4 guys carrying it? Ever been in one of those small planes? You can't even stand up straight and there is a tight right turn as soon as you get on.

How do 4 guys carrying a board with a fifth person on it fit in that tight space?

They don't. So, the still healthy nurse walked the last few steps.

See how easy this is when you aren't bending over backward to find conspiracies?

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by WTF

I'll only know it if you tell it

I answered it the first time you posed it moronic buffoon.



Can you tell me how much money was spent on treating those folks? How about keeping track those possibly exposed to the Ebola virus in Dallas? NYC?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

I never said I was an expert in anything.

I am merely pointing out the flaws in your conspiratorial assertions. You don't need an expert for that. Any amateur will do.

Conspiracy my ass. This whole thing is flat out bullshit. Like Dr. Brantley giving Blood transfusions after receiving ZMAPP. Two people still died after supposedly taking it. But Brantley's system is just teaming with the antibodies to ward off Ebola. It's hardly a good idea for a previously ill person to give blood to an ill person. That scenario involving ZMAPP is very controversial and I doubt it happened.

Jim

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

She doesn't need a hazmat suit. She already has Ebola. The mask is just there to stop her from coughing all over things.


When you are a patient in an ambulance, you ride on a gurney. Protocol. Even if you have a broken thumb and can walk just fine.

She had been diagnosed as having the virus. But she was not sick yet. So she had no problem walking.

They also can't get the gurney on that small plane. So she has to walk at some point.

See how easy this is when you aren't bending over backward to find conspiracies?


Because she wasn't showing symptoms yet. So, he probably thought he was safe.

The others were probably overly cautious or they are responsible for treating other patients and cannot afford to get even a spec of virus on them.

And how do you even know if he came from the hospital? What if he was some guy who worked at the airport for the company that owned the plane? He wouldn't even have a suit.

The 4 guys getting out of the ambulance probably told him to stay 5-6 feet away. But they were stuck in the ambulance with her so they wore hazmats suits in case she started vomiting.

See how easy this is when you aren't bending over backward to find conspiracies?



See above. How do they get a board through the door with 4 guys carrying it? Ever been in one of those small planes? You can't even stand up straight and there is a tight right turn as soon as you get on.

How do 4 guys carrying a board with a fifth person on it fit in that tight space?

They don't. So, the still healthy nurse walked the last few steps.

See how easy this is when you aren't bending over backward to find conspiracies?

Hahaha, You just babble on that's all you do. This is nothing more than theatrics. It's funny how you'll try to pull a bunny out of a hat to substantiate this Psyop.


Jim

[WTF]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

I never said that. Stop trying to put words in other people's mouths. That used to be IBHankering's job. Now it is Zanziboob's job.

I asked YOU if you would take a blood transfusion from someone who may have been exposed to Ebola - even though they were not yet showing symptoms. Like the NY doctor's GF.

I also asked if you would take a blood transfusion from the NY doctor if you could go back in time to the day before he started showing symptoms.

My point is that it is transmissible BEFORE symptoms show up. But only under certain circumstances - like blood donors and sex partners.

And my point was to bet that his girlfriend did not have Ebola. You fantasy scenario if ridiculous.

I explained the thought process behind why I would make that bet. I highly doubted that he has sex with her , much less unprotected sex and I'm pretty sure there were no blood transfusions.

I see you did not asking me if I would have gone bowling with him the day before he became symptomatic. Might that be because I would have?