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10-11-2014, 03:49 PM
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10-11-2014, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jumbo72
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Gina, can you clarify? I interpret that the removal of the activities and ad board affect all customers but the 2nd quoted sentence confuses me. Does the change in Canadian law affect US customers or not?
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The board is hosted and operates in Canada under Canadian law. Hence, if Canada passes this, they have to comply or shut the whole thing down.
It sucks.. I've grown to love the ad board. But I'd rather have P411 than not have P411.
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10-11-2014, 04:11 PM
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User ID: 216
Join Date: Mar 29, 2009
Location: toronto
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Originally Posted by TinMan
Is there anyway you could change the ad board to where the ladies fill out a form that limits information to that which is allowed by law? There is still value in seeing which women are available in a particular location, and perhaps a link to other sites where more information is available.
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This is something we have been considering, and will continue to think about.
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Originally Posted by GracePreston
The board is hosted and operates in Canada under Canadian law. Hence, if Canada passes this, they have to comply or shut the whole thing down.
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We operate as a legal Canadian business, and will continue to do so.
Yes this "affects" clients around the world, but you are not obliged to follow a law in Canada unless you are in Canada. If you are in the US, you have to follow US laws as they are written or face possible prosecution.
P411 is in Canada, and therefore has to follow the laws of Canada, which up to now have been quite lax and/or non-existent. Bill C36 is going to put a law into place that specifically addresses Escort Advertising, which we will follow in order to stay on the right side of the law.
Advertising time for money will always be legal. Advertising any sort of sexual services will not be legal. It sucks, I realize this! However, I have a very busy mind and you never know what we might be able to come up with.
Always,
Gina
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10-11-2014, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GinaXXX
This is something we have been considering, and will continue to think about.
We operate as a legal Canadian business, and will continue to do so.
Yes this "affects" clients around the world, but you are not obliged to follow a law in Canada unless you are in Canada. If you are in the US, you have to follow US laws as they are written.
P411 is in Canada, and therefore has to follow the laws of Canada, which up to now have been quite lax and/or non-existent. We do not have to follow the laws in the US.
It sucks, I realize this. However, I have a very busy mind and you never know what we might be able to come up with.
Always,
Gina
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I appreciate the update and continued efforts to make p411 better. I read the ads on occasion, but what is going to miss by me will be the menu items not being able to be listed as it does help in my research of the providers on my list to see. But, as was said, having p411 is better than not having it.
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10-11-2014, 04:59 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
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The Canucks can fuck up a good thing just as badly as the US. Now that taint right.
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10-11-2014, 05:07 PM
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As a provider, the ad boards are the most important means of daily availability advertising for me. Perhaps the calendar will become more important if the ad board disappears. Could we not keep the ad board, but avoid mentioning of services/activities, only listing a picture and availability?
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10-11-2014, 05:19 PM
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As in all walks of life...things change. To succeed you have to adjust and be creative... and he/she who adjusts the best, thrives. The hobby goes on and on. With Gina's 'busy' mind, I'm sure most will be just fine. Be safe though.
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10-11-2014, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TinMan
Is there anyway you could change the ad board to where the ladies fill out a form that limits information to that which is allowed by law? There is still value in seeing which women are available in a particular location, and perhaps a link to other sites where more information is available.
The ability to filter ads by location is one important advantage P411 has over Eccie.
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Originally Posted by TinMan
That won't fool folks any more than the old "200 roses" bit.
I do like the ingenuity you showed in some of those offerings, though. The ice cream desserts got a giggle from me.
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Maybe leave everything the was it is and replace it with a single number or letter. (single master sheet given to members only)
Example: 1 = BBBJ or A = BBBJ
Then adjust the filter to correspond to that number or letter.
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Originally Posted by GinaXXX
This is something we have been considering, and will continue to think about.
However, I have a very busy mind and you never know what we might be able to come up with.
Always,
Gina
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Gina is a very smart lady and i am sure she will come up with something.
Maybe we can help her with some Ideas!
CG
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10-11-2014, 07:15 PM
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Keep in mind there will be court challenges to the law. No one really knows yet what the end result will be. Until then, Gina will do what she has to protect her business.
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10-11-2014, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Mar 10, 2013
Location: USA
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Since P411 is a Canadian site and they have to comply with Canadian laws maybe they can change the acronyms to hockey terms. Canadians can't object to anything hockey related, it's in their constitution.
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10-11-2014, 08:37 PM
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Gaining Momentum
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Multiple Shots On Goal is already loosely a hockey term.
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10-11-2014, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rf23817
Multiple Shots On Goal is already loosely a hockey term.
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MSOG should be on a hobbyist's menu!
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10-11-2014, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: Jul 13, 2014
Location: Dallas
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More and more evidence that cyber dust is needed where no proof is stored. No evidence it ever happened.
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10-11-2014, 10:50 PM
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Join Date: Apr 23, 2009
Location: Lupanaria
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P411 has always worked great for me. I'll miss the menu items but I've never totally relied on them. Good research from good reviews and client feedback always trumps what providers might or might not "offer" on their "menus". I'd rather have p411 as a resource than not.
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10-12-2014, 12:19 AM
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Join Date: Nov 22, 2009
Location: Happyville
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Originally Posted by davidfree986
I am banned from p411? You have me banned from everywhere! How do you know this old wise one? No irony, but another assumptive troll post trying to stir up shit from you. The thread hijacks and cyber stalking my posts is really getting old. Why don't you grow up take your own advice... http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1055769396&postcount=35
"What exactly are you doing in this forum anyways? All I have seen from you is passive aggressive judgements."
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Context bigdog, context.
Your quote from me was a thread from the forum "another realm" where someone was judging another on their choice of kink.
On the other hand, reminding those who may not know better that you were a dangerous individual is the job of responsible members of the community who have been around long enough to know. Deceiving ladies about your identity, getting ladies drunk and taking advantage of them, and general lying about your reviews are just the things we know about.
So as long you insist on commenting on everything and playing stupid, you will occasionally get called out. I could give a fuck if male members don't like it. But as long as it makes one lady aware of your antics, it does it's job.
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