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Originally Posted by racegear20
Depends on how your current nutrition is. If you consume a clean fairly well balanced meal 1.5 - 2 hours before your workout; then only need to take shake after within 30min post training. Eat another well balanced meal approximately 1 hr after shake. FYI: do not mix shake with milk.
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Thx racegear. Yea I mix it with a bottled water.
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Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
Dr. you probably already know this but goal setting is important from the jump. Not saying this is you but a lot of people go straight from couch potato to heavy lifting and that's a recipe for disaster / major injury. Heavy lifting should be very gradual after you've reached certain fitness milestones and certainly not every time you hit the gym. I look at protein as means to achieve certain gains but it should be done in conjunction with a well balanced or clean diet.
When I first started working out yrs back this steroid taking kid from A&M was training me and had me maxing out weekly until I injured myself. I learned from that lesson and now I train with moderate weight for cuts. I lift heavy for size once a week but that's all I need. I don't go for the bulk look I'd rather lean and ripped but we all have different goals.
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In my case I've worked out for years but never sought bulk until recently. I was dating a PYT and she wanted more muscle. She's since kicked me to the curb but I still want to get some size for my own vain purposes. Not looking for body builder shyte but do want more size. After slowly increasing the weights and then finally agreeing to workout with my boy at the gym, after a week and half am already seeing some real change. Never wanted to work with anybody else 'cause I've got my own thing but damn ole boy is pushing me waaayy past my comfort zone. I'm sore in some crazy places. I see increases in my arms, shoulders, back. Hell I have never had such a dent in my chest- like fucking cleavage. LMFAO
I've got a six pack even at 50+yrs so my diet is decent. Could be better but it's not ridiculous. Trying to eat more so I can get my weight back up. The ladies in my office are talking about me 'cause my pants are too loose (that was before recently though).
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Originally Posted by peabody
After and try some T+ by ONIT that stuff is insane for over the counter stuff. I put on some serious muscle in just three months and I'm an old fuck.
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Peabody if you could PM me info on what you're using that would be great.
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Originally Posted by Goatnipples
ON is a good company, been around for years.
Per your questions it really on depends on your lifestyle and goals. Nothing is going to beat clean solid food. You do have a certain window post workout that a simple carb and protein powder are most effective. Timing depends on study but with in 30 minutes should be good. Something like a Vitargo mixed with protein powder works great post workout. They are both simple for the body to breakdown and therefor utilized quicker.
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Thx Goatnipples. As mentioned above the diet is decent but I'm sure could get better. Post divorce the diet has not been as good but is getting better. The buddy I work out with is big on protein before and within 30 minutes after so that's what I've been doing this past week. Would the Vitargo mixed with protein powder be more effective in your opinion than the ON protein mix I'm using now?
Before, after or both?
