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Old 07-24-2014, 10:13 AM   #46
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Bullshit !

Obama is head of the administrative state that includes the FAA; are you saying the FAA went rogue with their NO FLY restriction.

You are just trying to shield Obama from the consequences of his own administrative actions.

If you have proof that Obama disagreed with the FAA rule, post it !

And for you to tell us that closing Ben Gurion to American commercial air traffic (and other world carriers that followed suit) isn't economic harm to the economy of Israel is stupidity. It also offered up a public relations win for Hamas.

CNN reports:
The FAA's ban on U.S. flights to and from Israel's main airport for a second day marks another blow to that country's economy and a success for Hamas militants, experts said Wednesday.
Hamas claimed victory on the heels of the Obama FAA no fly ban.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/...port-reaction/

The FAA action is part of a broader attack by the Obama administration (and U.N. effort)s to browbeat Israel into a series of “cease fires” which Hamas cheerfully ignored.



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The headline is a complete LIE! President OBAMA did not close Israeli airspace. Nor did he, by doing so, ramp up pressure on Netanyahu to back down.

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Old 07-24-2014, 10:51 AM   #47
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If YOU have any proof that OBAMA ORDERED ISRAELI AIRSPACE CLOSED, RAMP UP PRESSURE ON NETANYAHU TO STAND DOWN, POST IT!

This is on you, dipshit of the year!

You took two independent things and made them interdependent. You are pulling stuff out of your ass again. Fabricating bullshit out of speculation and then stubbornly trying to defend your opinion as fact.

You're a lying sack of shit. If the FAA ordered planes out if harm's way, if wasn't political.

You're still lying and now, moving quickly to two of the 5 Ds of dipshittery: DENY. DEFLECT.
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:04 AM   #48
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....... If the FAA ordered planes out if harm's way, if wasn't political.

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Yeah right.......it is impossible that the Obama administrative state would do anything that is political !!!! Or lie about it.


Rumor has it Lois Learner is consulting with the FAA on email retention procedures !

Perfect !


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Old 07-24-2014, 11:10 AM   #49
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The FAA reversed it's no fly rule.....Feel free to tell us why - what has changed on the ground around Ben Gurion in the past 12 hours?
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:30 PM   #50
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The FAA reversed it's no fly rule.....Feel free to tell us why - what has changed on the ground around Ben Gurion in the past 12 hours?
I already did post THEM and linkS. Would this be helpful?

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Old 07-24-2014, 01:33 PM   #51
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...-ban/13082351/

Apparently, USA Today didn't get the Whirly Memo, nor did the European carriers ...

"Air France and German airlines Lufthansa and Air Berlin, meanwhile, announced further flight cancellations through Thursday, "until further notice." Several other European carriers also have canceled flights into Tel Aviv.

The European Aviation Safety Agency recommended Tuesday that airlines suspend flights into Ben Gurion.

The FAA flight ban was initiated after a rocket struck near the airport Tuesday and the FAA says it will "continue to closely monitor the very fluid situation around Ben Gurion Airport and will take additional actions as necessary."

"The decision to ban flights into Israel was no doubt also influenced by the recent downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 by a missile as the jetliner flew over war-torn eastern Ukraine."

"Lufthansa said it extended its cancellations because "at the current time there is no sufficiently reliable new information that would justify a resumption of air operations."

While the ban was in effect, Israeli airport and tourism officials insisted that planes could land safely. British Airways and El Al were among the airlines that continued to fly into Tel Aviv despite the rocket strike.

Even with the ban lifted, airlines must decide when to resume flights. Richard Anderson, CEO of Delta Air Lines, which diverted a flight Tuesday headed from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport to Tel Aviv, told CNBC the airline made its decision before the FAA acted.

"We have a much higher duty of care, and we've got to make the right decisions for the flight attendants, customers and pilots on our flights," Anderson said.
Israel gets more visitors from the United States than any other country. Of 3.5 million visitors last year, 623,000 were Americans, according to Israel's Ministry of Tourism.
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There has got to be some nuggets of "anti-Semitism" code words stashed in the USA Today article some where. Right Whirly?

Especially since the "Obama" has backed off, but the companies haven't!!!!! Even though it costs them millions in air fare.

Of course, perhaps the hysteria really didn't impact on the Israelis ... and I hoped it wouldn't ...

Apparently, Israel is moving forward.
Here you go ....

FAA is "eye wash" to the discussion ... the Carriers made the decision BEFORE the FAA and AFTER the FAA ....

If your theory is correct then why did the FAA back off ... is there a cease fire?

Actually, since you made the accusationS ....

You ought to be the one proving them. So far you have only posted bullshit.

Speculation on your part. Period. And I stress ... YOUR PART!

I think what you haven't figured out yet, is these hair-brain ideas of yours with NO PROOF to support them water down your credibility, if not eliminate it. If you want to be a viable force on the conservative side, then support what you claim with at least sufficient FACTS (not your speculative opinions) to make your argument at least plausible. YOU HAVEN'T ON THIS ONE. BELIEVE ME.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:07 PM   #52
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The FAA order isn't "eye wash".................it isn't an advisement, it is an FAA order....nice try................now that the FAA has lifted the order; carriers resume service.
At 12:15 EDT on July 22, 2014, the FAA issued a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) informing U.S. airlines that they are prohibited from flying to or from Israel's Ben Gurion International Airport
http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releas...m?newsId=16694

You chose to believe the administration....go right ahead......live blindly.

You don't want to see the obvious......be my guest.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:15 PM   #53
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You haven't provided any evidence that security concerns on the ground today are any different than they were 48 hours ago when the FAA posted the no fly order.

Again, what has changed in the conflict over the past 48 hours that changed the FAA position?
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:41 PM   #54
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What the fuck are you going on about, whir-LIE-turd?

AHHH. You're using one of the Five Ds of dipshittery! DEFLECT!

Trying to shift the burden of proof to LLIdiot, when we all know you've fabricated this entire debate based on your bogus headline. AGAIN!

Where is anything proving that OBAMA closes down Israeli airspace to pressure Netanyahu to back off of Gaza?

That's what you based this thread on, with NO SUPPORTING LINKS.

Now, we're far enough from page one for you to think people forgot the ridiculous premise of this, the Daily Liar's latest fib.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:50 PM   #55
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I'm just shocked LL got one right....I'm wondering when Whirly and JL and JD might get their first common sense gold star for this forum?






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Old 07-24-2014, 03:51 PM   #56
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Whirly .... you are drowning ....



Just pretend the topic is moot.

The FAA has cancelled its directive to not fly into Tel Aviv. Move on, please.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:55 PM   #57
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Talking Whirly is trendimg....

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Old 07-24-2014, 07:01 PM   #58
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Yeah right.......it is impossible that the Obama administrative state would do anything that is political !!!! Or lie about it.


Rumor has it Lois Learner is consulting with the FAA on email retention procedures !

Perfect !


You are a fucking idiot. Maybe the presence of FLYING EXPLOSIVES might have had something to do with it?

Howzabout you do a recon mission for us, whir-LIE-tard? Maybe you can tell us whether those flames you posted a couple of weeks ago were Gaza or Israel.

LMAO!!!!
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:14 PM   #59
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OBAMA CLOSES ISRAELI AIRSPACE.....RAMPS UP PRESSURE ON NETANYAHU TO BACK DOWN !
I thought for a brief moment that Trendy had claimed MLK closed the Israeli airspace in order to ramp up pressure on Netanyahu to back down.

In any event, this is yet another Trendingway thread created through his own lies, distortions, rumors and innuendo.

Is anyone surprised?

I'm not!

Trendy is "TRENDING" liar, once again!
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:04 PM   #60
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Whirlaway is being blown away with the big gust of bull shit hitting his sails. He will regroup and return with another thread even bigger.
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