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Old 07-03-2014, 06:23 PM   #16
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Quinnipiac Propaganda Poll.... and why are you focused on a biased poll (of Fox news watchers)...
You're a complete fucking idiot... When you don't like the message, shoot the messenger. Call it propaganda, biased, linked to Fox News. You have zero credibility, zanyzits. Do you even know how polling works? Do you know what a random scientific sample is? Quinnipiac is a well-known, reputable, independent and non-partisan polling organization. Is it biased propaganda when they release polls that are favorable to Obama?


"...Known for its exactness and thoroughness, the Quinnipiac poll is featured regularly in The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal and on national network news broadcasts. In 2010, respected public opinion polling analyst Nate Silver ranked the Quinnipiac University poll as most accurate among major polls conducting surveys in two states or more..."


http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...iversity-poll/
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:51 PM   #17
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Much of the Romney factor is the "grass is greener" factor. No one--to include Romney--knows how things would be in that What-If universe.

Here's what we do know - at least we would have a foreign policy worthy of the name and not be feckless and disengaged while threat after threat to our national security mounts. This was written over 3 months ago before Iraq started to crumble:


The Price of Failed Leadership

The President's failure to act when action was possible has diminished respect for the U.S. and made troubles worse.


By Mitt Romney


March 17, 2014 7:17 p.m. ET


Why are there no good choices? From Crimea to North Korea, from Syria to Egypt, and from Iraq to Afghanistan, America apparently has no good options. If possession is nine-tenths of the law, Russia owns Crimea and all we can do is sanction and disinvite—and wring our hands.

Iran is following North Korea's nuclear path, but it seems that we can only entreat Iran to sign the same kind of agreement North Korea once signed, undoubtedly with the same result.

Our tough talk about a red line in Syria prompted Vladimir Putin's sleight of hand, leaving the chemicals and killings much as they were. We say Bashar Assad must go, but aligning with his al Qaeda-backed opposition is an unacceptable option.

And how can it be that Iraq and Afghanistan each refused to sign the status-of-forces agreement with us—with the very nation that shed the blood of thousands of our bravest for them?

Why, across the world, are America's hands so tied?

A large part of the answer is our leader's terrible timing. In virtually every foreign-affairs crisis we have faced these past five years, there was a point when America had good choices and good options. There was a juncture when America had the potential to influence events. But we failed to act at the propitious point; that moment having passed, we were left without acceptable options. In foreign affairs as in life, there is, as Shakespeare had it, "a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at the flood leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries."

When protests in Ukraine grew and violence ensued, it was surely evident to people in the intelligence community—and to the White House—that President Putin might try to take advantage of the situation to capture Crimea, or more. That was the time to talk with our global allies about punishments and sanctions, to secure their solidarity, and to communicate these to the Russian president. These steps, plus assurances that we would not exclude Russia from its base in Sevastopol or threaten its influence in Kiev, might have dissuaded him from invasion.

Months before the rebellion began in Syria in 2011, a foreign leader I met with predicted that Assad would soon fall from power. Surely the White House saw what this observer saw. As the rebellion erupted, the time was ripe for us to bring together moderate leaders who would have been easy enough for us to identify, to assure the Alawites that they would have a future post-Assad, and to see that the rebels were well armed.

The advent of the Arab Spring may or may not have been foreseen by our intelligence community, but after Tunisia, it was predictable that Egypt might also become engulfed. At that point, pushing our friend Hosni Mubarak to take rapid and bold steps toward reform, as did Jordan's king, might well have saved lives and preserved the U.S.-Egypt alliance.

The time for securing the status-of-forces signatures from leaders in Iraq and Afghanistan was before we announced in 2011 our troop-withdrawal timeline, not after it. In negotiations, you get something when the person across the table wants something from you, not after you have already given it away.

Able leaders anticipate events, prepare for them, and act in time to shape them. My career in business and politics has exposed me to scores of people in leadership positions, only a few of whom actually have these qualities. Some simply cannot envision the future and are thus unpleasantly surprised when it arrives. Some simply hope for the best. Others succumb to analysis paralysis, weighing trends and forecasts and choices beyond the time of opportunity.

President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton traveled the world in pursuit of their promise to reset relations and to build friendships across the globe. Their failure has been painfully evident: It is hard to name even a single country that has more respect and admiration for America today than when President Obama took office, and now Russia is in Ukraine. Part of their failure, I submit, is due to their failure to act when action was possible, and needed.

A chastened president and Secretary of State Kerry, a year into his job, can yet succeed, and for the country's sake, must succeed. Timing is of the essence.


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Old 07-03-2014, 07:39 PM   #18
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One of these days it will dawn on the Obama Supporters that all of the good jobs that are out there are held by people who did not, nor never will, vote for the likes of President Obama.

He promised his people the world, but most of his supporters only get a handful of dirt.
The Black Community, who overwhelmingly support The President, still suffer from an unemployment rate twice that of all other ethnic groups.

So goes the whims of the Demagogue.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:46 PM   #19
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Recognizing the country is failing is not the same as cheering for failure. Do you want to see the country fail? Then ignore all the signs of an oncoming collapse, just to cover the ass of your candidate. Zanybra and Assup are doing more to hasten the failure of America by blinding themselves to the truth, than those of us saying, "This shit has stop!"
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:51 PM   #20
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Recognizing the country is failing is not the same as cheering for failure. Do you want to see the country fail? Then ignore all the signs of an oncoming collapse, just to cover the ass of your candidate. Zanybra and Assup are doing more to hasten the failure of America by blinding themselves to the truth, than those of us saying, "This shit has to stop!"
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:12 PM   #21
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Kudos to Capitalism and "Corporate Fascism":

* Dow tops 17,000 for first time; S&P 500 near 2,000

* Nasdaq closes at highest since 2000

* U.S. June jobs report well above forecasts

* PetSmart rallies as hedge fund seek sale

* Dow up 0.5 pct; S&P 500 up 0.6 pct; Nasdaq up 0.6 pct (Updates to close)

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Fixed that for you, zanydick... Keep cheering the bull market!

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Old 07-04-2014, 05:29 AM   #22
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Keep cheering the bull market!

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Institutional traders are cheering and communicating the good news to their customers.

"That said, investors should be feeling good about Dow 17,000," Scott Wren, a senior equity strategist with Wells Fargo Advisors, wrote in a note to investors. "The stock market has more than recovered from levels seen during the financial crisis more than five years ago. Slow and steady can win the race; and it has."
The Dow has climbed more than 10,500 points since its Great Recession low of 6,547.05 on March 9, 2009.

No matter what happens under Obama, the Eccie repubtards will never be happy.
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Old 07-04-2014, 06:11 AM   #23
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So how does it feel going to bed every night and waking up every morning actively cheering for your country to fail?
How does it feel going to bed every night and waking up EVERY MORNING actively BELIEVING "funny money" is good for the future of our country?

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/nati...ewsrelease.htm

"Happy Days Are Here Again"??? Really????

"National Income and Product Accounts
Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 2.9 percent in the first quarter of 2014 according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis."

I know few people who are citizens of this country who actually want the U.S. to fail ... that is bullshit on your part ....

I do know a lot of people who are citizens of this country who want REAL GROWTH AND EXPANSION with REAL JOB GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITIES based on an INCREASE in SMALL PRIVATE BUSINESSES which historically have been the primary GENERATORS of NEW JOBS and REAL INCREASED EMPLOYMENT.

This country is "taking on water" and that "guff-ball" at the helm is strutting around the country beating his chest and screaming .. "sue me for doing my job" .... Should anyone sue him? IMO, No! He ain't got no money to pay up.
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Old 07-04-2014, 07:21 AM   #24
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here is your Great Jobs report in real numbers, creating a Nation of 29 hours a week jobs... boy that will get our GDP to 6%... NOT

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...800k-most-1993


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How does it feel going to bed every night and waking up EVERY MORNING actively BELIEVING "funny money" is good for the future of our country?
Perhaps the more appropriate question would be:

How does it feel going to bed every night and waking up EVERY MORNING actively BELIEVING the financial decisions (including the War in Iraq) that led to the stock market crash that occurred on September 15, 2008 was good for the future of our country?
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Perhaps the more appropriate question would be:

How does it feel going to bed every night and waking up EVERY MORNING actively BELIEVING the financial decisions (including the War in Iraq) that led to the stock market crash that occurred on September 15, 2008 was good for the future of our country?
Hey BT.. who was just complaining in a speech last week how "Republicans block everything I do"..? Remember in January when the twelfth extension of the Unemployment Insurance wasn't passed and Obama promised doom and gloom for the economy for it? Seems he was wrong and the Republicans blocking the UI extension have more to do with the booming jobs and DOW than Obama does.

Funny how that works huh?
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:30 AM   #27
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Nothing like a President with a steady hand restoring consumer and investor confidence.


Kudos to President Obama:

* Dow tops 17,000 for first time; S&P 500 near 2,000

* Nasdaq closes at highest since 2000

* U.S. June jobs report well above forecasts

* PetSmart rallies as hedge fund seek sale

* Dow up 0.5 pct; S&P 500 up 0.6 pct; Nasdaq up 0.6 pct (Updates to close)

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Yeah, no kidding. It would be nice if we could get one in office.

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Old 07-04-2014, 09:39 AM   #28
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[QUOTE=RedLeg505;1055517086]Hey BT.. who was just complaining in a speech last week how "Republicans block everything I do"../QUOTE]

I give up. Who was just complaining in a speech and made that quote?
It's not that I think you are a liar but how about a link to that?
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Hey BT.. who was just complaining in a speech last week how "Republicans block everything I do"../QUOTE]

I give up. Who was just complaining in a speech and made that quote?
It's not that I think you are a liar but how about a link to that?

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Perhaps the more appropriate question would be:...

FOR YOU ....


Do you keep looking back at Bush, because you don't see anything good NOW?
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