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Old 06-19-2014, 12:38 PM   #16
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:08 PM   #17
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IMO it would make sense for more providers to include something about their presence on eccie when posting a BP ad. I also don't think that the one ad per day rule is a bad thing. I can see everyone who is available and also a part of eccie by looking at one page of unique ads versus scrolling through hundreds of reposts. As a hobbyist, I don't use BP very often. I actually haven't in years (okay once, but it was a bad experience). Sometimes I'm tempted but with no way to verify anything about them (other than the fishing tips posted above) I never actually call. AMPs are easy mode when there aren't any eccie posts that tickle my fancy. BP is just too risky. I might change my mind on that if an ad included an eccie username.

YES because LE busts a lot of BP girls so lets bring ECCIE more into the world of LE.... meh.. guess they already know.... at least internationally and on Chelsea Lately... Gotta love dumbasses with no sense of discretion.
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:22 PM   #18
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This may be shocking to some career hobbyists here on ECCIE, but there IS hobbying outside of ECCIE. There are more sites than BP. The savvy escort advertises on different sites. Yes, you have your providers who ONLY rely on ECCIE, and an occassional BP ad when touring, but they are limited...as we saw with ASPD , sites come and go.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:01 PM   #19
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I don't choose one over the other .... I advertise all over the place. Maximum effort usually leads to maximum effort (and peace of mind I covered my bases) and all that.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:34 PM   #20
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BP is just a source; just like ECCIE is a source. You have to do research. I have a BP rule. I will not see a girl who advertises on BP unless I can get a second source of information on her-- a review, ECCIE member, P411 member, word of mouth, etc. There might be one time out of 50 where I might violate the rule, but still only after doing research.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:54 PM   #21
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Why would a provider choose to use BP over eccie? Besides the obvious reasons, bait and switch or cash and dash, BP feels like a big gamble while with eccie you kind of know what your getting into before you start investing into it. There is accountability with eccie but not so much with bp.
I use BP because my clients are there. I'm on here because the drama is better than TnT. 90% or more of my bookings are on BP. Just the way it works.
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Why would a provider choose to use BP over eccie? Besides the obvious reasons, bait and switch or cash and dash, BP feels like a big gamble while with eccie you kind of know what your getting into before you start investing into it. There is accountability with eccie but not so much with bp.
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This may be shocking to some career hobbyists here on ECCIE, but there IS hobbying outside of ECCIE. There are more sites than BP. The savvy escort advertises on different sites. Yes, you have your providers who ONLY rely on ECCIE, and an occassional BP ad when touring, but they are limited...as we saw with ASPD , sites come and go.

Wakeup and Eva are correct. You are seriously delusional if you think ECCIE accounts for the majority of hobbying. Not the be all and end all...not at all.

Only one of the top working girls I know even has an account here. She has some reviews and posts ads, but is mostly on EROS and....gasp...out in public meeting people! The others either don't know about ECCIE or they have no interest in being here. And trust me, they do VERY well...
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Id like to know these other sites.. other than BP cuz i just wont go there. I stay very busy with eccie and 411... my vagina would be on its death bed if i got business from anywhere else lol. But when i travel id like to know for sure other sources. I tend to avoid any cities that dont know 411 or eccie... but if they use other sources, other than BP, id love to know of those sources.

I had a client tell me that once he had a hooker standing outside a bar.. handing out hooker business cards LOL!! boy have times changed! Or have they? Do they still do that?
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:14 PM   #24
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Some ladies definitely do have business cards ... clients too ("hobbyist cards"). Seen it at m&g's.
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Yes. My friends get cards from anywhere from vistaprint to zazzle to crane's

Zazzle is my choice
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Old 06-20-2014, 10:11 PM   #26
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if you want UTR providers then avoid bp that's for sure.
I have 2 utr providers that both started out on bp now they don't advertise anywhere
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Old 06-20-2014, 10:34 PM   #27
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I have 2 utr providers that both started out on bp now they don't advertise anywhere
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I currently have a UTR/SB who started out on CL.
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Wakeup and Eva are correct. You are seriously delusional if you think ECCIE accounts for the majority of hobbying. Not the be all and end all...not at all.

Only one of the top working girls I know even has an account here. She has some reviews and posts ads, but is mostly on EROS and....gasp...out in public meeting people! The others either don't know about ECCIE or they have no interest in being here. And trust me, they do VERY well...
Very true! Everyone has forgotten face to face marketing and sales and has fled to the net.

I too only know one , truly successful provider who is on here. Luxury car since 22, and now a wealthy business lady...she's not your ECCIE post whore, nor is she an ECCIE monger.

She's equipped with tools outside of ECCIE reason and discernment to obtain wealth/goals, whilst others do the typical to generate business. Many UTR ladies are still active...just not on the board. Good old fashioned gift of gab can do so much more than even a $1000 ad, as many ladies have discovered, and if they have not, they soon will.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:42 AM   #29
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The savvy escort advertises on different sites.
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I use BP because my clients are there. I'm on here because the drama is better than TnT. 90% or more of my bookings are on BP. Just the way it works.
There is a lot of brilliant advice in those four quotes.

If you are a marketer, you never limit your advertising to one location. You research where your clientele hangout and you advertise there.

I think the real "savvy escort" understands it is wise to grab eyeballs through BP, but have P411 and ECCIE listings so they can both get additional clients and refer callers who want references/reviews to their profiles.

I also loved the comment about going offline with business cards. Learning to entice people to return for more appointments is smart marketing, whether you use cards, a membership area on your website, or email followups...

BP is just an advertising platform that is abused by many, but worked intelligently by those "savvy escorts".
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started out is the key. I am talking about the present.
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