honest and accurate reviews without the male cat fights.

[IAUSARSOLDIER69]

Maybe again I am naive,
But can we ever get honest and accurate reviews without the hobbyist to hobbyist cat fights?
I'm asking because I really only want to save myself time and money by not seeing after a lousy provider or knowing bait and switch pics off backpage.
Yes, I understand YMMV.
Yes, I understand WK syndrome.
Yes, I understand that the pics are wrong or really old pics but the service was decent enough to warrant a yes.

Also, why do mods allow hobbyists to hobbyists cat fights, insults, cheap shots, etc?

I read the reviews and subsequent comments to see if others have had different experiences, not to read hobbyist A call hobbyist B a dumb ass...

can't the mods delete the comments, or at least PM hobbyists who do fight and tell them to knock it off or face consequences?

Smh...

[The Sixth Beatle]

Unfortunately, some folks have drama deficiencies and seek to supplement their intake by stirring some up. There are other folks who can always find a way to be offended by the most innocuous comment. Because ECCIE is somewhat representative of humanity, some of both kinds of folks mentioned above are in our little slice of the internet. What you'd like to see would be ideal and because we're talking about human involvement, it will never be ideal for any one party or group. Just my opinion.

Also, IMHO, the information you can obtain from being a member here is worth the occasional drama. Just remember, nobody is saying you must participate in said drama (and it's usually damn good advice to avoid jumping in).

Have fun and Happy Hunting!

[jframe2]

Money trumps drama.

People PAY the owners for Premium Access, for ads and listings, etc......

They ( the owners and moderators) are going to give a very, very long load of drama before they throw the red flag.

[beentheir]

Maybe its fun to give each other a hard time? Maybe we all have a different set of standards? Maybe some of this stuff is just plain laughable and some of us choose not to be so serious. If this read like the new york times, I doubt it would have much participation. Not every thing needs to be moderated or legislated or incubated. Take out what you like, leave behind what you don't.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by IAUSARSOLDIER69

Maybe again I am naive,
But can we ever get honest and accurate reviews without the hobbyist to hobbyist cat fights?
I'm asking because I really only want to save myself time and money by not seeing after a lousy provider or knowing bait and switch pics off backpage.
Yes, I understand YMMV.
Yes, I understand WK syndrome.
Yes, I understand that the pics are wrong or really old pics but the service was decent enough to warrant a yes.

Also, why do mods allow hobbyists to hobbyists cat fights, insults, cheap shots, etc?

I read the reviews and subsequent comments to see if others have had different experiences, not to read hobbyist A call hobbyist B a dumb ass...

can't the mods delete the comments, or at least PM hobbyists who do fight and tell them to knock it off or face consequences?

Smh...

Mods moderate. They use the guidelines, not their own idea of what they like or don't like. They don't censor or babysit. If one member writes a no review, and a wk replies "you're a dumbass" and the reviewer replies, "no, you're a dumbass" a good moderator will ignore that.

You have more control over that kinda stupid shit than a moderator does. Ignore the wk or argue with them. That's up to you.

My experience has been the true dumb asses hang themselves. I've seen where a "dumbass" starts posting dumbass shit and if he is left alone to continue to post stupid shit, within days he blows out his reputation. Ladies, men... They know who the dumbasses are. You don't need a mod to do that.

Mods can't control the quality of a review. Pa can be denied per guidelines. A mod can't say "your review appears insincere. It should have been no. I will delete your review and if you do it again I will ban you." You don't want mods doing that , and that's not what the guidelines say.

There is a huge amount of info on this board. You know that is true. Folks complain about reviews, wk's, member fights, but the complainers keep coming back, because you cannot find another source for this information and opinion exchange.

If a mod tried to stop or delete all hobbyist arguments, he'd last about 3 days.