Free sessions for good reviews? Does this really go on here?

[TinMan]

Originally Posted by baddboyy129

In Any business...offering incentives is always worth it in Gold, in fact it makes good business sense but each on their own....but as they say...the proof is in the Bank...that proves incentives pay off big time

Yeah, but what about guys approaching newbie providers and asking for the free session in exchange for a review. Is that ok?

Guys who did that used to get chased off of ASPD and ECCIE when they were found out. Apparently, it's now an acceptable practice.

[L.A.]

I thought all the new young girls had pimps to make these decisions for them.

I have to say I find it a little funny how many people think new young providers are so naïve...like they just arrived off the bus from a small town in Nebraska.

I will first say I've never seen anybody on here that didn't have some reviews so it's not me hitting the welcome wagon.
I really don't see how it's anyone else's business how a provider and client conduct their business.
Adults should be capable of making their own decisions. If a provider wants to take up an offer for a discount then that's her business....not ours.

There are a ton of new providers that offer a discounted session in exchange for a review. I don't really see the harm in a guy making the same offer to the provider. She can take the offer or not take the offer...big deal.
Who are we to tell somebody what they should or should not do?
She can choose to fuck a guy at a bar for free she can choose to fuck a guy for a review.

The only real problem I see is if a review's integrity is compromised by the discount.

[TinMan]

First, we are talking free sessions, not discounts. I don't believe in asking for either, but it's definitely crossing a line for a guy to solicit free sex for a review.

Second, if there is nothing wrong with it, why don't they admit it? Bring it out in the open, and I bet the court of public opinion won't be in their favor.

[MobyDick100]

It may not just be newbie independent providers or seasoned hobbyists bartering for reviews. It would not surprise me to find pimps or their top bitches sending new providers in their crews to well known hobbyists for free or discounted sessions.

[Glenn Quagmire]

I am not a welcome wagon chaser, but I know some of the practitioners and what they do.

So what?

You act as if there are rules; like the girls can play the game, but the men just have to sit there and be their prey.

Fuck that shit. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Men can play the game, too.


All this is a threAD by her taunting her continual breaking of the board rules.

I laid the bait, she took it. Mods, do something or lose all respect.

[peevee0931]

personally i would never ask but if a lady offers im certainly not going to turn something down. we all work for a living and money you get to keep is always a good thing

[Alyssa Marie]

Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire

I am not a welcome wagon chaser, but I know some of the practitioners and what they do.

So what?

You act as if there are rules; like the girls can play the game, but the men just have to sit there and be their prey.

Fuck that shit. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Men can play the game, too.


All this is a threAD by her taunting her continual breaking of the board rules.

I laid the bait, she took it. Mods, do something or lose all respect.

You're saying it's ok for a guy to reach out to a girl and ask if they can have a free date in exchange for their oh do credible review?
New girls, if this happens to you.. Please bring this up in the infoshare lounge.
We can all offer suggestions on how to advertise so you don't have to compromise.
How would a new hobbyist feel if an established lady said, "you need refs? Double my rate and I'll give them to you."
That's disgusting work behavior.
We all know it goes on, but it's tacky to say the least.
I find is ironic that you end your post with a discussion of respect....

[TinMan]

Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

You're saying it's ok for a guy to reach out to a girl and ask if they can have a free date in exchange for their oh do credible review?
New girls, if this happens to you.. Please bring this up in the infoshare lounge.
We can all offer suggestions on how to advertise so you don't have to compromise.
How would a new hobbyist feel if an established lady said, "you need refs? Double my rate and I'll give them to you."
That's disgusting work behavior.
We all know it goes on, but it's tacky to say the least.
I find is ironic that you end your post with a discussion of respect....

Why save it for Infoshare? Why not have the lady receiving such offers publicly post it? I'd like to know, too, so I can give as much credence to his reviews as he deserves.

I suspect the activity won't diminish until everyone knows who is doing it. It's up to you ladies to take a stand. The guys on this board who believe as you do can't do it for you.

[Tara Evans]

Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

You're saying it's ok for a guy to reach out to a girl and ask if they can have a free date in exchange for their oh do credible review?
New girls, if this happens to you.. Please bring this up in the infoshare lounge.
We can all offer suggestions on how to advertise so you don't have to compromise.
How would a new hobbyist feel if an established lady said, "you need refs? Double my rate and I'll give them to you."
That's disgusting work behavior.
We all know it goes on, but it's tacky to say the least.
I find is ironic that you end your post with a discussion of respect....

I agree with you girl. New Ladies please do not fall for this.

[Randall Creed]

In fairness to potential clients, why should anyone take a chance on a newbie provider charging $300 from day one, with zero reviews or any proof that her services are up to par? That's a lot to pay to find out she only does cbj, isn't msog, and uses a 2-star notel. Starting out isn't easy for a new provider or hobbyist, but at least the provider has the ability to barter. More so than the guys, for sure. A new hobbyist has zero bargaining/bartering power. On the fiip side, a couple of reviews from a couple of credible guys could create a list of endless clientele for her (wasn't there a notable episode of this on the previous site?). Knowing this, why wouldn't she use the power of the pussy to do this?

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book isn't it?

[Alyssa Marie]

Rambo - the biggest problem with this.. You cannot force someone to write a review. It was mentioned just last month. There was an upset hobbyist over something similar and a provider chimed in something like, "is this karma? Since I offered you a review special and you never wrote the review?"
The other problem is if someone says, "write a good review for a free session" and they do it, their credibility is down the toilet. Maybe if it said, "an honest review."
That being said... No one is up in arms over a discounted review special for someone starting out..
Either way, we all know this crap goes on.
I know of a super established hobbyist who told me about a girl who wasn't so happy with her services. He said to me, "I think when she realized my credibility and my (whatever number) of reviews she wanted a do-over." He took her up on it. And in his review wrote her rate then total time together like "3 hours + over 3 days."
I always say, when you go to sleep at night the bed can be a very lonely place if you're a dickhead. I don't feel pity for the people who have no friends. If your mentality is that of a user and you find yourself in a bad spot, well.. That's on you.
(I don't mean this as a personal attack towards you - I mean it to the shady people in the world.)


Lastly, when you were new.. What if a lady said, "I'm taking a risk on you, so double my rate." ?

[Tara Evans]

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

In fairness to potential clients, why should anyone take a chance on a newbie provider charging $300 from day one, with zero reviews or any proof that her services are up to par? That's a lot to pay to find out she only does cbj, isn't msog, and uses a 2-star notel. Starting out isn't easy for a new provider or hobbyist, but at least the provider has the ability to barter. More so than the guys, for sure. A new hobbyist has zero bargaining/bartering power. On the fiip side, a couple of reviews from a couple of credible guys could create a list of endless clientele for her (wasn't there a notable episode of this on the previous site?). Knowing this, why wouldn't she use the power of the pussy to do this?

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book isn't it?

Good point. But hey what if a guy chooses to see her because she is hot and has no reviews. Gives her the I will write you a good review if you hook me up with a session to get you going in the business. He sees her the session is horrible but promised her a good review. Now other guys might see her just because he wrote her that good review?? See its just bad any way you look at it.

[oldbutstillgoing]

The mods have posted that buying a positive review in a no-no. It is completly counter to the concept of an unbiased review. that is effectively what is going on. Or in these cases what the guys are selling.

[Bestman200600]

How many times has this happened in the AMP section?

[FunInDFW]

Originally Posted by OldButStillGoing

The mods have posted that buying a positive review in a no-no. It is completly counter to the concept of an unbiased review. that is effectively what is going on.

Buying a positive review yes... but what if one were to offer a free session for an honest review? Semantics?

Re: Not being able to force a review to be written - While true, if you make an agreement for an exchange of services, and one person doesn't hold up their end of the bargain, would be grounds for an alert or infoshare post.