MISSING REAGAN MUCH ???

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hijack completed.

You've done it again IBIdiot.

Listen assup, I try to avoid your juvenile feces-tossing outbursts, but just for the record it was little eva-tard who hijacked this thread by bringing up dick-sucking (one of his preoccupations) in post #5... This thread deals with economics, meaning you're completely out of your league, so why don't you and little eva-tard just STFU and let the adults carry on the conversation?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Listen assup, I try to avoid your juvenile feces-tossing outbursts, but just for the record it was little eva-tard who hijacked this thread by bringing up dick-sucking (one of his preoccupations) in post #5... This thread deals with economics, meaning you're completely out of your league, so why don't you and little eva-tard just STFU and let the adults carry on the conversation?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

count again ... #4



ANNOUNCEMENT 1: Assup, the dumb-fuck golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, was elected: (please reference the avatar & see @: http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=946023, .http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=897663 & http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1052174471&post count=1)

ANNOUNCEMENT 2: Ekim the Inbred (AKA "i'va biggen") is a "chimp off the ol' block." See @: http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1053405983&post count=35


guess who?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

count again ... #4



ANNOUNCEMENT 1: Assup, the dumb-fuck golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, was elected: (please reference the avatar & see @: http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=946023, .http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=897663 & http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1052174471&post count=1)

ANNOUNCEMENT 2: Ekim the Inbred (AKA "i'va biggen") is a "chimp off the ol' block." See @: http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1053405983&post count=35


guess who?

Try again, CBJ7. The chart at post #4 is the one Whirly was referencing in the OP before IJR severed the hotlink between it and ECCIE, you very ignorant jackass!

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Go back to your post #22 and tell me WTF your comment to me had to do with the chart you brain dead fuck.

It looks as though you're too fucking stupid to see how that retort was predicated by your ignorant post at #5, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

BTW, CBJ7, it was the post at #5 you were looking for and so ignorantly and obviously ignored.

[Submodo]

Originally Posted by lustylad

All sarcasm aside, if the difference is NOT correlated to each administration's policies (pro-growth versus anti-growth), then please explain what it IS correlated with...

Primarily the ability of firms to achieve record profits through automation, information technology, easy access to cheap foreign labor markets. In 1981 those things were there, but in their infancy. 30 years later those structural forces were in full effect (and getting stronger every day.)

Firms today are at record high profit levels with the employment they have. Name me a time in American history when S&P 500 firms have been more profitable?

Firms today can borrow money at interest rates (thank you FED) not imaginable in 1981. And they do so to buy equipment and automation.

Nice chart.

[i'va biggen]

[SIZE="3"] It looks as though you're too fucking stupid to see how that retort was predicated by your ignorant post at #5, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.


Don't answer the question spin DR . It is why you are the dumbest fucker on the board.

[Whirlaway]

Since the Dark Ages the argument has been that advances in technology/science will only deepen the plight of the working man............a baloney theory when the typewriter was invented and baloney when high speed computers were invented!

And again, the same arguments were made when "global trade" was considered to be Frenchmen trading with Englishmen for furs and such.

Unlike Obama, Reagan managed the economy with economic policies that trended employment upward, not downward in the face of these threats to American workers and families.

Originally Posted by Submodo

Primarily the ability of firms to achieve record profits through automation, information technology, easy access to cheap foreign labor markets. In 1981 those things were there, but in their infancy. 30 years later those structural forces were in full effect (and getting stronger every day.)

Firms today are at record high profit levels with the employment they have. Name me a time in American history when S&P 500 firms have been more profitable?

Firms today can borrow money at interest rates (thank you FED) not imaginable in 1981. And they do so to buy equipment and automation.

Nice chart.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Since the Dark Ages the argument has been that advances in technology/science will only deepen the plight of the working man............a baloney theory when the typewriter was invented and baloney when high speed computers were invented!

And again, the same arguments were made when "global trade" was considered to be Frenchmen trading with Englishmen for furs and such.

Unlike Obama, Reagan managed the economy with economic policies that trended employment upward, not downward in the face of these threats to American workers and families.

Reagan had a advantage the jobs hadn't been outsourced yet.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Reagan had a advantage the jobs hadn't been outsourced yet.

and housing wasn't in the shitter either

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Submodo

Primarily the ability of firms to achieve record profits through automation, information technology, easy access to cheap foreign labor markets. In 1981 those things were there, but in their infancy. 30 years later those structural forces were in full effect (and getting stronger every day.)

Firms today are at record high profit levels with the employment they have. Name me a time in American history when S&P 500 firms have been more profitable?

Firms today can borrow money at interest rates (thank you FED) not imaginable in 1981. And they do so to buy equipment and automation.

I would take issue with your claim that in 1981 those things were just "in their infancy". Where I come from, the steel industry employed 150k people in 1980 but lost 2/3 of those jobs while Reagan was in office. Steel makers were forced to invest in modern labor-saving technology to survive. Here is what it looks like today:

"Inside the Edgar Thomson mill on a recent workday, workers are surprisingly scarce. That's a reflection of the leap in productivity that the industry has enjoyed since the dark days of the early 1980s. At that time, producing a ton of steel required about 10 man-hours. Today, it takes a little more than an hour.

The advance cuts two ways. It's great news for profits, not so good news if you're an unnecessary laborer. But a generous profit-sharing plan has taken some of the sting out of the labor-saving automation. Last year, the average USW member at the Edgar Thomson mill got about $10,000 from the plan."

We wouldn't have a steel industry today if it still took 10 man-hours to roll out a ton. And don't forget there are a lot of new jobs created at equipment suppliers. My point is that Reagan's economy was buffeted by many of the same forces you identified. Reagan even encouraged such investment with special credits and accelerated depreciation. Yet his policies were successful in stimulating a strong recovery, despite the fact that borrowing rates (as you noted) were far higher back in 1981.

Profits are healthy now, but they weren't back in 2009 when the current economic recovery began. By focusing on raising taxes and discouraging hiring (through the ACA and other anti-growth policies), Obama has made the recovery a feeble one. The only way businesses have been able to rebuild profitability is by keeping labor costs in check. They would much rather hire more workers, but that would require a government that puts tailwinds behind the economy instead of headwinds in front of it.

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[Whirlaway]

Jobs were "out-sourced" under Clinton and Bush I and Bush II.....we still had positive job growth.................

It is a canard to blame "out-sourcing" for Obama's lousy performance on the economy !

[i'va biggen]

LMFAO ....Right

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Listen assup, I try to avoid your juvenile feces-tossing outbursts, but just for the record it was little eva-tard who hijacked this thread by bringing up dick-sucking (one of his preoccupations) in post #5... This thread deals with economics, meaning you're completely out of your league, so why don't you and little eva-tard just STFU and let the adults carry on the conversation?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

You're plain wrong again. You've always got a juvenile outburst ready for any thread in which your immature and generally ignorant points of view are challenged by grown ups. I don't know who little eva-tard is or that that's supposed to mean, but your very mention of that pretty much I dictates your level of maturity and skill.

IBIdiot, your father, hijacked this thread into a poo flinging match long ago.

You simply amplify it with posts like the one quoted herein and comments about fellatio.

The notion of you commanding any intellectual high ground in any thread in this forum is laughable, IBJunior.

Go suck your daddy's dick.

Thank you in advance for your capitulation.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Try again, CBJ7. The chart at post #4 is the one Whirly was referencing in the OP before IJR severed the hotlink between it and ECCIE, you very ignorant jackass!



It looks as though you're too fucking stupid to see how that retort was predicated by your ignorant post at #5, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

BTW, CBJ7, it was the post at #5 you were looking for and so ignorantly and obviously ignored.

No Buttman. You did!

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The notion of you commanding any intellectual high ground in any thread in this forum is laughable.

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

What was this thread about? Oh yeah!
WOOHOO!

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

and the shits just keep on coming!

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Go suck your daddy's dick.

Thank you for your highly intelligent, uplifting, thought-provoking and on-topic comments. The depth of your intellect never fails to astonish me, assup.





What were you saying about capital investment, productivity gains and GNP growth under Reagan v. Obama? Go ahead and dazzle us some more, you enlightened dipshit of the year.

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[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

No Buttman. You did!

Keep wallowing in your hypocritical stupidity, you lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, and try to explain how post #4 is hijacking this thread off topic while you ignorantly maintain that post #5 is on topic!

The OP:

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

POST #4:

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Don't answer the question spin DR . It is why you are the dumbest fucker on the board.

There's no "spin" to stating you're stupid, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, it's a verifiable fact.