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04-29-2014, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia
Next time you see a homeless person, maybe you can think of this guy so that you are able to see them as a person instead of a burden. Yes, everyone should be doing their part to make society run perfectly, but I am sure we can all think of at least one thing we do that is not beneficial to society lol. I know that I can name a few things about myself that are not so aesthetically pretty lol.
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I don't agree with that and it seems like a few others agree with me,
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I agree with Dahlia's sentiments - the caveat for me though is I will help others as long as they are helping themselves with the help they are being given.
I was handicapping those people by not giving them initiative to help themselves.
These days I continue to champion and assist anyone I meet, no matter what situation they are in. However I always tell them that I will do whatever I can to help as long as they are demonstrating they are not taking my help for granted and are putting in effort to use the help to better themselves.
If they are not using the help to better themselves and taking it for granted, I'm out. I refuse to handicap those people by giving them no reason to work on being better.
It's cheesy but I like the Hope For The Holidays phase on 98.9 - "Not a handout, but a hand up.
Sums my sentiments when it comes to assisting those in need pretty well.
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It seems you know this dude cause you see him a lot, but usually I see a bum on the street for about 10secs as I walk by them.
I'm all for helping someone who is helping themselves, but 99.9% of bums I see are just asking for money. Not a job, not a ride, nothing but money. Which they'll likely use on drugs.
I even help street performers, not because they are any good, but because they are working for money, trying to EARN IT.
earned money/earned stuff is viewed differently then stuff that is given to you.
The main factor is GIVE ME A REASON TO GIVE YOU MONEY, other than you are covered in dirt and sitting on your ass/knocking on my car window wanting money.
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04-30-2014, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia
Well I do have a great story to share about someone I helped recently:
There is a homeless man at my church that comes every Sunday for service, and not the lunch we serve.
He is an artist, and paints these paintings of women. Most of them always have huge tits. This tickles me as I giggle thinking, "Men lol". So I buy them from him for $20/each. He is now a professional artist. He makes money instead of me giving it to him.
Easter Sunday I didn't know if he'd go to lunch with my family and me so I gave him $50 for a painting. I asked him anyway to lunch, and he said yes. We went to the Plaza to have a Scrumptious meal.
I was so worried they weren't going to let him in, and I was going to have to go ape shit on them. There was not even a "look" as they seated and waited on us. McCormick and Schmick's may not be the best restaurant in town, but they sure have my vote as to being a very Classy and Kind dining establishment. ( Two Thumbs Up!)
Afterwards I asked him where he wanted me to drive him. He said he wanted to go shopping at the Family Dollar on Broadway in Westport where he stays.
So I see him yesterday at church. Go to give him a hug noticing he has on a new shirt, shoes, his hair was all styled and smells really nice to boot.
After church he's holding a different Bible than his normal one. He said with the money I gave him he bought all that stuff Easter Sunday after our lunch.
I don't know how he did it because I can blow through $50 like it's stick of gum lol, but he managed to buy all of those items with that money.
So if someone says that no Good deed goes unpunished, well here is your proof that they are wrong lol.
So Keep Giving
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05-02-2014, 07:22 PM
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This thread has really made me think.
I have nowhere near enough art with big tits in my house.
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05-04-2014, 08:42 AM
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Sorry to jump into this thread late but I don't check KS until I have a trip planned. This is condensed version. My experience was not exactly with a stranger but with a lady that was becoming a favorite in a different city. We had a morning date. When I texted I was on my way no response. When I arrived at her new location nothing there. I get a call that she is on the way and where am I? Address she texted was wrong so I waited. When she arrives she is a mess. Slept in her car and appears and barely able to drive. I took her to a cafe and she came around but I knew she was not herself. Took her to a nearby hotel next to a rehab hospital, had her clean up, put her to bed, paid for 4 nights made sure she was ok and left. I got a text from her about a week later telling me she was in my town, good now and wanted to make it up to me. I passed but said I would check up on her. Got another text she was fine and really wanted to make it up. Her bday was the following weekend and I said I would take her out to a movie and dinner NSA, if she was ok. Showed up at a nicer motel and she was still in bed and non functional. Left her money in her bday card and told her I would help her however I could but no more visits. End of the story is her problem was not what we all would assume, She got her self back together, quit the profession, has a 'real' job and a boy friend. She offered to reimburse me and I told her I was just going to cut all ties and let her start her new life. I have asked some mutual friends and she is totally off the radar for anyone in the business. I am very happy for her but I do miss her.
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05-04-2014, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by windowsidiot
Sorry to jump into this thread late but I don't check KS until I have a trip planned. This is condensed version. My experience was not exactly with a stranger but with a lady that was becoming a favorite in a different city. We had a morning date. When I texted I was on my way no response. When I arrived at her new location nothing there. I get a call that she is on the way and where am I? Address she texted was wrong so I waited. When she arrives she is a mess. Slept in her car and appears and barely able to drive. I took her to a cafe and she came around but I knew she was not herself. Took her to a nearby hotel next to a rehab hospital, had her clean up, put her to bed, paid for 4 nights made sure she was ok and left. I got a text from her about a week later telling me she was in my town, good now and wanted to make it up to me. I passed but said I would check up on her. Got another text she was fine and really wanted to make it up. Her bday was the following weekend and I said I would take her out to a movie and dinner NSA, if she was ok. Showed up at a nicer motel and she was still in bed and non functional. Left her money in her bday card and told her I would help her however I could but no more visits. End of the story is her problem was not what we all would assume, She got her self back together, quit the profession, has a 'real' job and a boy friend. She offered to reimburse me and I told her I was just going to cut all ties and let her start her new life. I have asked some mutual friends and she is totally off the radar for anyone in the business. I am very happy for her but I do miss her.
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huh?
Sounds like someone had a rough morning/last night.
What made you think she had a "problem"?
and a "problem" that was solved with a few dollars?
what was her easily solvable problem?
I don't think ladies in the hobby are here cause its there last choice, some/most, do it cause they like being paid to have a good time.
You can't find her, so you think she's not a provider anymore?
So this girl must have been already qualified to get a "real" job and she had a place to stay?
Lots of holes in that tale
-cheers
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05-05-2014, 07:41 AM
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Problem was not solved w a few $. Her real job does not pay enough to support herself. Other problems were solved when her family took her back in and supported her emotionally as well as monetarily. My presumption was something not allowed to mention in ECCIE. There was much more but tried to keep it short. If you are convinced all ladies are in this business just to please us you are possibly a little naive. The people I checked with are other providers (friends she worked with) as well as customers she saw regularly. Take it or leave it.
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05-05-2014, 02:59 PM
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Problem was not solved w a few $. Her real job does not pay enough to support herself. Other problems were solved when her family took her back in and supported her emotionally as well as monetarily. My presumption was something not allowed to mention in ECCIE. There was much more but tried to keep it short. If you are convinced all ladies are in this business just to please us you are possibly a little naive. The people I checked with are other providers (friends she worked with) as well as customers she saw regularly. Take it or leave it.
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re-read what I wrote
I said, "some/most" I did not say "all"
You made it sound like all you do did was give her $$,
even in your "part2" you don't explain what role you had that helped her except giving her $$
take it or leave it
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05-06-2014, 04:47 PM
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You are correct. Except for getting her a clean safe place to stay, food, money and some emotional support I did nothing.
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05-06-2014, 06:19 PM
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I have been very blessed helping strangers in the past, a car broke down on the Kansas
turnpike, I stopped to help this family, 3 kid and mom, I got a place to go bird hunting when ever I wanted saw treated like family by the whole family, another time there were a older couple needing to get to KU Medical center, they had no money for the turnpike, he forgot his billfold, the turnpike toll taker and I helped the couple with some cash, the older man did not know how to get to KU Medical center, I had them follow me right to the ER and a nice security guard helped them I gave the older coupe some cash and so di the security guard, yes it does my heart good to help people, I can pickup on someone having problems always not money. The only time I ever got screwed over is by a CHICKEN SHIT person in the hobby and there are a lot of the old timers know this sorry lying person is. This guy will help people in need not in greed. I was taught to help those who extend a hand in real need. Thanks to everyone who does take the time to help others in need, I also see that a couple of the fine ladies have helped, that is a quality that you are born with you can't teach it and you ladies know who you are, thanks ladies. I will use no names of people I help. Dahlia and Sins thanks for helping, you will be rewarded in many ways. Anyone that knows me, they know how I feel about someone who is really in need. I could write a book on good stuff about giving.
Sorry I took up all the space.
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05-06-2014, 06:31 PM
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You are correct. Except for getting her a clean safe place to stay, food, money and some emotional support I did nothing.
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problems arent really problems, when they can be solved with money
one leg, fat, bald, cataract, dumb as a rock
now those are real problems that you arent going to fix by throwing money
but if a hotel, pizza are all it takes, the that is not a help
buit emotional support? yeah you got it there
being there for someone when they are lost i the world is a big thing
I took a girl from withering in pain on my bed to the ER where they fixed her upwith drugs+antibotics and took her to my home and took care of her till her infection went away
she and I don't talk because shes got crack/herion issue, but the last time we did talk, she was mad at me and said the only thing I ever did for her was help her at the er,
so even a junkie cared about getting love and support when she was SOL in life.
so yeah, caring about someone through actions is great
I'd rather have someone show they care about me than them give me money
but that's why we see hookers, right? cause we don't need the money and we like someone to act like they care for us, even for 15 minutes
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05-06-2014, 11:32 PM
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thanks for helping, you will be rewarded in many ways
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Great story! Everyone's stories ( positive ones lol) are Awesome!
Yes, I am Blessed in many, many ways. Even ways that I can not see or have knowledge.
Now here's where everyone gets mad at me, LOL, but this is how I feel so here it comes lol (rotten tomatoes, salacious insults and old trash dodge my face hee hee lol):
God is Good... All the Time... God is Good
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but that's why we see hookers, right? cause we don't need the money and we like someone to act like they care for us, even for 15 minutes
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I'll have you know that I am willing to care for you for up to 24 Hours lol. HaHa. lol, I am totally TEASING you!
On A Serious Note:
You would be surprised about how much some of us providers actually do care for the men we see.
I have been there for guys who have had to:
-* had to be moved to surgery for an emergency quadruple bipass while I was there holding his hand as he found out he had testicular cancer in the oncology unit
-* stop a suicide attempt
-* take to the ER due to a medical emergency where they injured themselves severely during an appointment which ended up requiring the ER doctor, tests and stitches ( this one did have a happy ending when the "Quadruple Play" appointment took place where I showed up in my nurse costume. A great laugh was had by all LOL.)
-* give emotional support to a widow ( who had only slept with his wife until he called an unnamed brunette escort who lives in the city lol) who is lonely because his wife ( his one and only true love) died of cancer.
This is/was all done on my FREE time.
So, yes, I think I can safely say that I am 100% sure that I Do Care about the men I see.
Do I care about every single one of them? Yes, in the "we are all humans" sense I care for everyone. There are just some that I spend a lot of time seeing that find a special place in my heart.
Why are you full of assumptions about (1) Women and (2) Escorts? You are neither...
I wish people would stop judging us by our job title, and take the time to get to know our soul. Not all of us providers are users and abusers. We may not "click" with everyone we see, but we never take advantage of anyone.
Even if we know that we could, we don't take advantage of them because we have respect for them. Some of us providers are good people who just do a very different kind of job. A job, just a job... that just so happens to be a Super Fun job at that lol!
I know a lot of men just want the appointment, then leave and go back to their regular lives. Great, I get that.
However there are some men that are looking for a connection and the appointment. Awesome, I love that too! Why wouldn't I? I am a woman, and I live for that shit lol.
I love intellectual connections a ton, but more than that I love emotional connections even if they are much more scary because there is always that dangling element of heartbreak and disappointment lol.
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05-07-2014, 06:14 AM
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Great story! Everyone's stories (positive ones lol) are Awesome!
Yes, I am Blessed in many, many ways. Even ways that I can not see or have knowledge.
Now here's where everyone gets mad at me, LOL, but this is how I feel so here it comes lol (rotten tomatoes, salacious insults and old trash dodge my face hee hee lol):
God is Good... All the Time... God is Good
I'll have you know that I am willing to care for you for up to 24 Hours lol. HaHa. lol, I am totally TEASING you!
On A Serious Note:
You would be surprised about how much some of us providers actually do care for the men we see.
Do I care about every single one of them? Yes, in the "we are all humans" sense I care for everyone. There are just some that I spend a lot of time seeing that find a special place in my heart.
Why are you full of assumptions about (1) Women and (2) Escorts? You are neither...
I wish people would stop judging us by our job title, and take the time to get to know our soul. Not all of us providers are users and abusers. We may not "click" with everyone we see, but we never take advantage of anyone.
Even if we know that we could, we don't take advantage of them because we have respect for them. Some of us providers are good people who just do a very different kind of job. A job, just a job... that just so happens to be a Super Fun job at that lol!
I know a lot of men just want the appointment, then leave and go back to their regular lives. Great, I get that.
However there are some men that are looking for a connection and the appointment. Awesome, I love that too! Why wouldn't I? I am a woman, and I live for that shit lol.
I love intellectual connections a ton, but more than that I love emotional connections even if they are much more scary because there is always that dangling element of heartbreak and disappointment lol.
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I thought this was well said. There's a lot of cynicism in this world and very much so within the hobby.
Just because a woman is a "provider" or "escort", she shouldn't automatically be viewed in a negative light. I've met some amazing women in this hobby that are genuinely caring people.
Not all providers are thoughtless uncaring women who just use/take advantage of men and see them as dollar signs. Sure they exist, but if you spend any amount of time reading posts, reading reviews and meeting these fine women, you'll see there's a large contingent of providers that are doing this because they LOVE sex and having fun, enjoy meeting people and get personal satisfaction out of making a man happy.
I also view a provider I'm talking to or seeing this way until they give me a reason to change my mind. Very very few ever have .
I view the rest of the world the same way. The vast majority of people in this world a good caring people - including the downtrodden, the homeless, the addicts. Sure, there are people in these unfortunate circumstances because they use, abuse and inherently rotten people. But these folks are in the minority.
Why tarnish every provider or every person you met with a cynical judgmental attitude because of a few bad apples?
Echoing what I said earlier in this thread, I will always help people I met whether it be financially helping a friend in need, giving my time to help out a stranger or just talking to someone on the street that's obviously lonely and needing just someone, anyone, to acknowledge their existence.
I will always help someone until they give me a reason not to. Abuse of my generosity, taking advantage of my efforts and not helping themselves despite multiple efforts from myself and others to provide that leg up that will get that person to a better place.
I find that the less cynical I am and the less quick I am to judgement, both in the hobby and in life, the happier and more fulfilled my life and encounters are.
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05-07-2014, 10:53 AM
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Why tarnish every provider or every person you met with a cynical judgmental attitude because of a few bad apples?
Echoing what I said earlier in this thread, I will always help people I met whether it be financially helping a friend in need, giving my time to help out a stranger or just talking to someone on the street that's obviously lonely and needing just someone, anyone, to acknowledge their existence.
I will always help someone until they give me a reason not to. Abuse of my generosity, taking advantage of my efforts and not helping themselves despite multiple efforts from myself and others to provide that leg up that will get that person to a better place.
I find that the less cynical I am and the less quick I am to judgement, both in the hobby and in life, the happier and more fulfilled my life and encounters are.
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Ive been on both sides of the fence there
I used to trust people until they gave me a reason not to, and I also have been on the side of "don't trust them till they give you a reason to trust them"
It comes down to how I feel at the time I interact with them,. much the same as I deal with spiders,(not comparing to spiders, just the act)
with spiders(which kill flies, etc and are 90+% harmles, I generally just kill cause I'd rather not take the time/effort to ID the spider to see if it's harmful or not.
If I'm having a bad day, I can be turned into a friendly dude very easily. I usually say something friendly and strangers and I might seem(probably seem) like I "judge" people on here, but I don't. I wait till they give me a reason to trust or not trust them, I learned from being "wronged/used" not to give people the benifet of doubt, but I don't prejudge someone by color/sex/ or even TV show they watch.
I like what Urban is saying, I'd see her, but I think I'd crack a tooth on some of those piercings!
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05-07-2014, 06:52 PM
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Dalhia I want to applaud you for your last post. Having a lady care about a man she sees is not something that occurs with every tryst. It takes time to become comfortable with the person on both sides. Both parties must have a level of trust as I am sure you had for the gentlemen you spoke of in the post. This is also a two-way street and I am sure the gentlemen also cared for you. Helping others gives a good feeling to both parties.
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