rush session

[sam_carl]

so I never do this. I don't have many post/reviews under my belt but needed to talk about this one.

being my height/size, I'm usually about as cuddling as a teddy bear. but this girl had me a bit upset.
she was controlling, I had to put my clothing (wallet) outside of the room, out of my view and gave a half assed service.

I asked how much the donation was, she said $180, I asked her if that was for a hour, she said yes. so I paid and went into her bedroom and laid down. she told me WRONG direction, the OTHER way. She wanted me in a certain direction.

so the back rub was OK, nothing spectacular, about what I expect from a BP girl. Lasted about 10 minutes. Then she told me to flip. So I do so, gave a little frontal rub, then started on my privates. Had a very fast pace hand and I tried to slow her down, but she kept trying to rush the job. So I pop in about 10 minutes, and felt kind of upset about it. So we both get dressed, I check my phone, and see it was a 20 minute session.

I leave kind of hot headed, but don't say anything. Wondering if I should confront this girl or not, as normally don't. I've been treated this way from BP girls before, but not this amount. If that was under $100, then I probably would have been on my marry way. But $180? Kind of had me steamed a bit. So I stood downstairs for 5 min, going through my head my next action. Thinking of breaking a window/turning off the power to her apartment. But seemed kind of childish. So I walk back up the stairs, stand in her door way and say "I'm usually not a violent man, but that 20 min handjob was bullshit" in a low but powerful voice. Didn't scream or yell, but made myself clear.

She tries to invite me in, but I tell her "I'm standing right here" as I really don't want to enter her apartment again. So she offers a refund, as I'm sure she is fairly scared at the moment, she hands me my full amount, and I leave. I felt pretty good about what happened, not hot headed anymore. Leave very calmly without anymore of a indecent.

she calls me 10 min later upset, saying I should at least pay half since I did receive service. I tell her no way Jose, I'm too far gone and you already gave me a full refund. If you felt like this in the first place, you should have told me then. We then to proceed to have a VERY unintelligent name calling conversation going back and forth about I owe her money, but politely say "good luck".

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by sam_carl

so I never do this. I don't have many post/reviews under my belt but needed to talk about this one.

being my height/size, I'm usually about as cuddling as a teddy bear. but this girl had me a bit upset.
she was controlling, I had to put my clothing (wallet) outside of the room, out of my view and gave a half assed service.

Fuck that! I'd told she my shit stays with me or I'm gone!

I asked how much the donation was, she said $180, I asked her if that was for a hour, she said yes. so I paid and went into her bedroom and laid down. she told me WRONG direction, the OTHER way. She wanted me in a certain direction.

You should have known what the donation was before you arrived! NEVER ask a provider about money. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid! Not you... you for doing that!

so the back rub was OK, nothing spectacular, about what I expect from a BP girl. Lasted about 10 minutes. Then she told me to flip. So I do so, gave a little frontal rub, then started on my privates. Had a very fast pace hand and I tried to slow her down, but she kept trying to rush the job. So I pop in about 10 minutes, and felt kind of upset about it. So we both get dressed, I check my phone, and see it was a 20 minute session.

BP? WTF was the question again?

I leave kind of hot headed, but don't say anything. Wondering if I should confront this girl or not, as normally don't. I've been treated this way from BP girls before, but not this amount. If that was under $100, then I probably would have been on my marry way. But $180? Kind of had me steamed a bit. So I stood downstairs for 5 min, going through my head my next action. Thinking of breaking a window/turning off the power to her apartment. But seemed kind of childish. So I walk back up the stairs, stand in her door way and say "I'm usually not a violent man, but that 20 min handjob was bullshit" in a low but powerful voice. Didn't scream or yell, but made myself clear.

She tries to invite me in, but I tell her "I'm standing right here" as I really don't want to enter her apartment again. So she offers a refund, as I'm sure she is fairly scared at the moment, she hands me my full amount, and I leave. I felt pretty good about what happened, not hot headed anymore. Leave very calmly without anymore of a indecent.
Excellent way to have an ALERT posted about you!

she calls me 10 min later upset, saying I should at least pay half since I did receive service. I tell her no way Jose, I'm too far gone and you already gave me a full refund. If you felt like this in the first place, you should have told me then. We then to proceed to have a VERY unintelligent name calling conversation going back and forth about I owe her money, but politely say "good luck".

You're looking to have some super big issues unless you start doing your research. So who won? You? Because you got a HJ for nothing?

[Mia Christine]

Another Self Alert Awesome!
I totally understand you being angry, and upset. This would have better served your purpose if it was written in review form. Then the information regarding your behavior would have been confined to the ROS. I wouldn't want an angry man at my door. I hope she's okay too. Honestly sorry this happened to you.

[sam_carl]

I know SL, I made a few pregame mistakes. I should have looked her up here before hand, as she does have 1 bad and only review. I seen many, many girls on here and BP without issue in the past. Guess this was too much $$ to just walk away with my tail between my legs. Not saying anyone won, just lesson learned.

[Listener]

Originally Posted by sam_carl

so
I leave kind of hot headed, but don't say anything. Wondering if I should confront this girl or not, as normally don't. I've been treated this way from BP girls before, but not this amount. If that was under $100, then I probably would have been on my marry way. But $180? Kind of had me steamed a bit. So I stood downstairs for 5 min, going through my head my next action. Thinking of breaking a window/turning off the power to her apartment. But seemed kind of childish. So I walk back up the stairs, stand in her door way and say "I'm usually not a violent man, but that 20 min handjob was bullshit" in a low but powerful voice. Didn't scream or yell, but made myself clear.
.

You actually started a thread confessing to physically threatening a girl through intimidation in order to get your donation back?

She may have been a scammer but I actually feel sorry for the girl.

On top of that you're bragging about not paying for the service that was provided. WTF? Are you really expecting back pats and high fives for this behavior?

[JJones]

One day you'll do this, and you will regret it.

No matter the cost, it isn't worth it to act the way you did. There were plenty
of warning signs but you continued anyway. Then at the end you complain.

[Centaur]

Originally Posted by sam_carl

she was controlling, I had to put my clothing (wallet) outside of the room, out of my view and gave a half assed service.

I leave kind of hot headed, but don't say anything.

So you're mad at yourself for doing what she told you and you take it out on her?

Originally Posted by sam_carl

Thinking of breaking a window/turning off the power to her apartment. But seemed kind of childish.

It's bad enough that you even entertained the idea.

Originally Posted by sam_carl

So I walk back up the stairs, stand in her door way and say "I'm usually not a violent man, but that 20 min handjob was bullshit" in a low but powerful voice. Didn't scream or yell, but made myself clear.

"I'm usually not a violent man, but" is a threat of violence. The sort you normally here followed by "but he grabbed my wife's boob" or "but she slapped my child" or "but he's/she's been stalking me for weeks"...not "but I didn't feel the HJ was up to snuff"!?

Originally Posted by sam_carl

She tries to invite me in, but I tell her "I'm standing right here" as I really don't want to enter her apartment again. So she offers a refund, as I'm sure she is fairly scared at the moment, she hands me my full amount, and I leave.

Probably terrified her neighbors would notice a John threatening her for overcharging him for a HJ? Probably wanted you gone, but figured it was better to invite you back in for a retry than to have you make a public scene.

Originally Posted by sam_carl

I felt pretty good about what happened, not hot headed anymore. Leave very calmly without anymore of a indecent.

And all it took was extortion.

Originally Posted by sam_carl

she calls me 10 min later upset, saying I should at least pay half since I did receive service. I tell her no way Jose, I'm too far gone and you already gave me a full refund. If you felt like this in the first place, you should have told me then. We then to proceed to have a VERY unintelligent name calling conversation going back and forth about I owe her money, but politely say "good luck".

Sir, I'm not being sarcastic when I say you should talk to a professional therapist. You clearly have anger management issues and don't know how to stand your ground without resorting to seriously sketchy behavior. Yes, it sucks that she advertised something she didn't want to do and half-assed it. None of that justifies public threats of violence. A bad review, or even a threat of one, would have been infinitely more mature.

[sam_carl]

Originally Posted by Mia Christine

Another Self Alert Awesome!
I totally understand you being angry, and upset. This would have better served your purpose if it was written in review form. Then the information regarding your behavior would have been confined to the ROS. I wouldn't want an angry man at my door. I hope she's okay too. Honestly sorry this happened to you.

I really didn't want to write a review as I feel that would have been more of a call out. Instead of a story/lesson learned. If anyone wants to know the providers name, They can PM me a couple have.

[sam_carl]

Originally Posted by Listener

You actually started a thread confessing to physically threatening a girl through intimidation in order to get your donation back?

She may have been a scammer but I actually feel sorry for the girl.

On top of that you're bragging about not paying for the service that was provided. WTF? Are you really expecting back pats and high fives for this behavior?

I hardly see anything I said to her as a physical threat. I chose my words very carefully and only mention of being non-violent as a sign of irritation.

But see it as you may.

[sam_carl]

Originally Posted by Centaur

So you're mad at yourself for doing what she told you and you take it out on her?

It's bad enough that you even entertained the idea.

"I'm usually not a violent man, but" is a threat of violence. The sort you normally here followed by "but he grabbed my wife's boob" or "but she slapped my child" or "but he's/she's been stalking me for weeks"...not "but I didn't feel the HJ was up to snuff"!?

Probably terrified her neighbors would notice a John threatening her for overcharging him for a HJ? Probably wanted you gone, but figured it was better to invite you back in for a retry than to have you make a public scene.

And all it took was extortion.

Sir, I'm not being sarcastic when I say you should talk to a professional therapist. You clearly have anger management issues and don't know how to stand your ground without resorting to seriously sketchy behavior. Yes, it sucks that she advertised something she didn't want to do and half-assed it. None of that justifies public threats of violence. A bad review, or even a threat of one, would have been infinitely more mature.

I felt this way over many woman I've seen in the past. But this is the first time I've ever had a over reaction on any occasion. But this is the first time I've felt like taking action. You're saying there is not anyone who has spent some time on Bp or eccie and felt like doing what I did today? I'm not saying what I did was right or trying to justify it by any means. But I bet most men on this board has felt this way in the past.

[Listener]

Originally Posted by sam_carl

I hardly see anything I said to her as a physical threat. I chose my words very carefully and only mention of being non-violent as a sign of irritation.

But see it as you may.

How I see it? My words were you physically threatened her through intimidation. If you reread you're own post that's exactly what you did. Now you justify it by claiming most guys feel this way and you view yourself as a God amongst insects standing up for all wimpy mongers.

Judging from the other responses you'll find that pretty much everyone sees it for what it was.

Thinking that choosing your words carefully changes the obvious intent shows you really are a serious threat. A ticking bomb who's had enough of BP treatment.

You went back up the stairs and stood in her doorway and in a very cool manner stated I"m normally not a violent person but ... A really cool and collected Hannibal Lector.

Why didn't you just preface it in a calm voice with "The last provider who ripped me off I ate her liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti."

You created a scenario whereby she was either going to give your donation back out of fear or if she hadn't you were clearly prepared to act upon that threat.

What would you have done if she told you to fuck off? Deflate and waddle back down the stairs with tail between your legs? You were so proud of scaring this girl that you had to post a thread and brag about it.

Just for the record it has Never crossed my mind to use violence against any women whether BP ripoff or an ex with a bad attitude. You don't represent anyone but yourself.

That is nothing to be proud of. Now if you had the balls to go back up the stairs and confront her 250lb muscle bound pimp then maybe but I seriously doubt you would have done that.

[sam_carl]

Eh, I don't see it that way, but whatever. I went up, said what was on my mind, and that was her reaction. This hobby is still the Wild West. You can't call and complain to the cops about you feel you got screwed on something illegal? Do I feel liked I bullied her? Yes, I already mentioned that I was probably very intimidating. Most people feel that way when you stand over a foot taller and outweigh them but quite a bit. But I felt very screwed over at the moment, a bit on edge. That's why I didn't want to enter her place again as it needed to go no further. She had the choice of closing/locking the door if she felt that threaten. And calling the cops if needed. But at that point, I think she knew she screwed someone over and felt she should give a refund.

[Listener]

Originally Posted by sam_carl

Eh, Do I feel liked I bullied her? Yes, I already mentioned that I was probably very intimidating. Most people feel that way when you stand over a foot taller and outweigh them but quite a bit.

Deeper and deeper.

[Centaur]

Originally Posted by sam_carl

Eh, I don't see it that way, but whatever. I went up, said what was on my mind, and that was her reaction. This hobby is still the Wild West.

So now you're Wyatt Earp? You have a rich fantasy life, I'll give you that.

Originally Posted by sam_carl

She had the choice of closing/locking the door if she felt that threaten. And calling the cops if needed. But at that point, I think she knew she screwed someone over and felt she should give a refund.

The really frightening thing is that I think you genuinely believe that. She gave you your money back to get rid of you ASAP.

[sam_carl]

Originally Posted by Listener

Deeper and deeper.

I read you one and only review. I think you just like to argue over the internet with nothing better to do in hays county.

Originally Posted by Centaur

So now your Wyatt Earp? You have a rich fantasy life, I'll give you that.
The really frightening thing is that I think you genuinely believe that. She gave you your money back to get rid of you ASAP.

I've spent $10 of thousands on eccie and Bp over the years. Mostly I've felt I at least my money's worth. This is the first instance I've felt "hey, I really got fucked on that deal". Even a provider gave me some sympathy stated above.

Like I said, I was a bit tempered when I went back up those stairs. And I made a few judgment errors before we even stared. But I felt I had a right to voice my dissatisfaction. Even though a bit harsh, I wanted to make a point.