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Old 04-24-2014, 09:58 PM   #16
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Infodumb must have had a man crush on Bundy, he has experienced a meltdown.

David has a special message for... "i'va meathead".


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Old 04-24-2014, 10:38 PM   #17
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What? Do all Negros look the same to you? I have never posted a video of David Caroll... you scalawag
No, they don't all look the same to me.

I don't pay much attention to anything you post - especially YouTube video rants from zealots.

Where do you find that shit? Is there a special rock you look under to get your videos?
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:41 PM   #18
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they are God's chosen people
No, no. Complete the sentence with BUNDY'S thoughts, not YOURS.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:07 PM   #19
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No, they don't all look the same to me.

I don't pay much attention to anything you post - especially YouTube video rants from zealots.

Where do you find that shit? Is there a special rock you look under to get your videos?
I post videos for pretentious assholes like you.... nyRINOer...


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Old 04-24-2014, 11:45 PM   #20
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I guess you listened to the audio. I'm sure everyone else on here did.
Iam sure everyone who did would classify it as racist. I think lately people throw the word "Racist" around a bit to loosely, so I thought it would be a good idea to post a video of a truly blatant racial moment.
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http://youtu.be/LNZdeSQ6Qjg
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:57 PM   #21
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Just being opinionated? That is a pathetic comment, and if you really believe that I feel sorry for you.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:02 AM   #22
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Just being opinionated? That is a pathetic comment, and if you really believe that I feel sorry for you.
Did you recall Bundy saying he didn't like Blacks specifically?


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Old 04-25-2014, 12:24 AM   #23
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Did you recall Bundy saying he didn't like Blacks specifically?


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Bundy is dependent on freeloading off the Federal governments land....not much different than the 'blacks' he was talking about. It matters not if he is racist, the point that has been lost on his supporters is that fact.

It is a shame that race is what has finally stumped his toe, it should be that fact. Not whether he is racist or not.

His supporters putting women and children in the front of the line in case shooting broke out was not a very smart thing either btw.
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Bundy is dependent on freeloading off the Federal governments land....not much different than the 'blacks' he was talking about. It matters not if he is racist, the point that has been lost on his supporters is that fact.

It is a shame that race is what has finally stumped his toe, it should be that fact. Not whether he is racist or not.

His supporters putting women and children in the front of the line in case shooting broke out was not a very smart thing either btw.
No, he's not really freeloading. Bundy just thinks he has a case against the BLM. People on welfare, food stamps ect. utilize welfare as a lively hood. Bundy actually had a legitimate income from his ranching business. Maybe he was grazing cattle on what was deemed federal land and not paying some fees but he wasn't freeloading. It's just a legal dispute that hardly deserves the publicity it received. Hopefully it can get resolved without any violence.


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Old 04-25-2014, 04:30 AM   #25
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Iam sure everyone who did would classify it as racist.
Unfortunately in this country (and others) the word choices used by some people are the focus of the decision as to whether or not someone is a "racist" and unfortunately there are those who continue to use those inciteful labels, which tends to become the focus of the discussion.

For instance Bundy used the term "Spanish" to refer to persons coming into the United States to work. To me that implies ignorance, not racism. But I'm not running around trying to identify racists as a methodology to attack others' ideas and beliefs, or to demonize them.

Some of the same people on here who are "outraged" over Bundy's comments make equally offensive comments regarding the Jewish Lawyer. They simply use a "preferred" label in doing so.

My take on Bundy's inciteful monologue/speech is a severe attack on the United States Government (which he obviously dislikes) by suggesting that it is worse than the slave masters. I don't think he was making a "pro-slavery" comment ... I looked at it just as i said. He was expressing his opinion (which he has a right to do) that he questioned the oppression and disregard by the Government of the Black people in this country as to whether or not it was worse than slavery.

Given the plight of unemployment in the Black population in this country, particularly during the Obaminable administration, and the growing dependency on "entitlement" programs with the nanny-state program requirements (which are oppressive and intrusive).... he has a point, although I do disagree as to the comparison and would not use it myself.

Like his participation in an armed confrontation with the Government, in which women and children were threatened to be used as shields, he has managed in his ignorance to divert attention away from his "political issue" and posture against an overreaching agency of the government, which like the IRS, has gotten out of control under the Obaminable administration.

(The BLM has taken land from private citizens for no government purpose.)
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............. and posture against an overreaching agency of the government, which like the IRS, has gotten out of control under the Obaminable administration.
I hate to put a burr in your saddle but it was President Ronald Reagan who signed Executive Order 12548, not Obama.

Executive Order 12548 -- Grazing Fees February 14, 1986

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, and in order to provide for establishment of appropriate fees for the grazing of domestic livestock on public rangelands, it is ordered as follows:

Section 1. Determination of Fees. The Secretaries of Agriculture and the Interior are directed to exercise their authority, to the extent permitted by law under the various statutes they administer, to establish fees for domestic livestock grazing on the public rangelands which annually equals the $1.23 base established by the 1966 Western Livestock Grazing Survey multiplied by the result of the Forage Value Index (computed annually from data supplied by the Statistical Reporting Service) added to the Combined Index (Beef Cattle Price Index minus the Prices Paid Index) and divided by 100; provided, that the annual increase or decrease in such fee for any given year shall be limited to not more than plus or minus 25 percent of the previous year's fee, and provided further, that the fee shall not be less than $1.35 per animal unit month.

Sec. 2. Definitions. As used in this Order, the term:

(a) ``Public rangelands'' has the same meaning as in the Public Rangelands Improvement Act of 1978 (Public Law 95 - 514);

(b) ``Forage Value Index'' means the weighted average estimate of the annual rental charge per head per month for pasturing cattle on private rangelands in the 11 Western States (Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and California) (computed by the Statistical Reporting Service from the June Enumerative Survey) divided by $3.65 and multiplied by 100;

(c) ``Beef Cattle Price Index'' means the weighted average annual selling price for beef cattle (excluding calves) in the 11 Western States (Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and California) for November through October (computed by the Statistical Reporting Service) divided by $22.04 per hundred weight and multiplied by 100;

(d) ``Prices Paid Index'' means the following selected components from the Statistical Reporting Service's Annual National Index of Prices Paid by Farmers for Goods and Services adjusted by the weights indicated in parentheses to reflect livestock production costs in the Western States: 1. Fuels and Energy (14.5); 2. Farm and Motor Supplies (12.0); 3. Autos and Trucks (4.5); 4. Tractors and Self-Propelled Machinery (4.5); 5. Other Machinery (12.0); 6. Building and Fencing Materials (14.5); 7. Interest (6.0); 8. Farm Wage Rates (14.0); 9. Farm Services (18.0).

Sec. 3. Any and all existing rules, practices, policies, and regulations relating to the administration of the formula for grazing fees in section 6(a) of the Public Rangelands Improvement Act of 1978 shall continue in full force and effect.

Sec. 4. This Order shall be effective immediately.

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I hate to put a burr in your saddle but it was President Ronald Reagan who signed Executive Order 12548, not Obama.
I have every reason to believe I have had more experience than you in dealing with the BLM and various executive orders of past Presidents, even Nixon. Having said that ... I NEVER suggested Your Favorite Son Obaminable signed any "GRAZING" executive orders .... his preference is more like "HAZING"!

Particularly his alleged political enemies while STROKING his supporters*.

AKA CHICAGO POLITICS.

*Not to mention MICHELLE'S classmates!!!! And HIS PROFESSORS!!!!

Quit struggling to appear intelligent and critical at the same time.
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I have every reason to believe I have had more experience than you in dealing with the BLM and various executive orders of past Presidents, even Nixon.
Oh pardon me! I forgot for a brief moment that LexiLiar has more experience in each every walk of life, up to and including "dealing with the BLM and various executive orders of past Presidents, even Nixon." How do I know of your broad bases experiences? Because you remind us on a daily basis.

Next time I will try to remember that you are LexiLiar, the patriarch of the notorious Idiot clan and that you came to be known as "LexiLiar" so that you could be easily distinguished from the rest of the Idiot Family.

While on the subject, how are your two identical twin sons, JD and IB doing? They seem to be quiet since your nephew Clive went on his racist rant! Perhaps we will hear from them later today! Feel free to let your nephew Clive know that he is welcome to post and share his wisdom with us.
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[QUOTE=IIFFOFRDB;1055236539]David has a special message for... "i'va meathead".




Waste of time I never have looked at one of your stupid you boob vids. Only the kool aid sippers watch that drivel.
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David has a special message for... "i'va meathead".




Waste of time I never have looked at one of your stupid you boob vids. Only the kool aid sippers watch that drivel.

Ditto!
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