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Old 03-12-2014, 06:56 PM   #1
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Default Gonorrhea is about to become impossible to treat

Gonorrhea has taken many forms over the last few decades. The strain that people acquire today isn't the same one that previous generations had to deal with. In fact, it might not be the same strain that infected people a little over 10 years ago. That's because gonorrhea, a sexually transmitted disease (STD), has become resistant to most of the antibiotics that we have used to combat it over the last three decades.


Read more: http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/12/55...sible-to-treat
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:00 PM   #2
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The media will print anything, won't they? Especially when it comes to racial matters, drugs, or diseases. Don't believe this crap. Remember Super-AIDS? SARS? Mad cow? Bird flu? The American public will believe anything, no matter how far fetched.
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Old 05-24-2014, 12:58 PM   #3
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The media will print anything, won't they? Especially when it comes to racial matters, drugs, or diseases. Don't believe this crap. Remember Super-AIDS? SARS? Mad cow? Bird flu? The American public will believe anything, no matter how far fetched.
Are you nuts? Or just desperate to keep seeing hookers?

This has been reported around the world by competent medical authorities for over a decade.

One by one, all of our antibiotics have become useless as bacteria evolve.

Do you think ALL of those medical bodies are lying? Are you some bible thumper that denies evolution?

Penicillin doesn't work against many (most?) of the diseases it worked against 30 years ago.
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:56 PM   #4
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Did you read the article exNYer or did you just go into panic mode again?

Its said that about 15% of the cases aren't cured by "first line treatment." I know a lot of people who don't get cured by "first line treatment" because that is usually the weakest effective treatment.

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So far, "no resistant cases have been identified in the United States," Kidd said, although several cases of cephalosporin-resistant gonorrhea have been reported in other countries, such as Japan, France and Spain.
Also, Gonorrhea cases are down in the US.

The sky ISN'T falling.
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The media will print anything, won't they? Especially when it comes to racial matters, drugs, or diseases. Don't believe this crap. Remember Super-AIDS? SARS? Mad cow? Bird flu? The American public will believe anything, no matter how far fetched.
jiji right on ...they said that about the swine flu too like 2 years ago or so...
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:15 PM   #6
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Did you read the article exNYer or did you just go into panic mode again?

Its said that about 15% of the cases aren't cured by "first line treatment." I know a lot of people who don't get cured by "first line treatment" because that is usually the weakest effective treatment.

Also, the article states

Also, Gonorrhea cases are down in the US.

The sky ISN'T falling.
I prefer to panic BEFORE I read the article...get's all those endorphins in the system and gives you a pleasant buzz as you kick back and read.
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Just another scaremonger article. The media can only cry wolf so many times. Supposedly they say condoms dont work either. How come we're not dying right and left?
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This is no different than what's happened with MRSA. Things that antibiotics used to commonly cure are not so resistant to them due to over-prescription and improper use that the antibiotics remaining that can kill them are so toxic to the human body that they'll sooner kill you than the infection.

Today, it's scaremongering. In a few decades, it's an epidemic.
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Did you read the article exNYer or did you just go into panic mode again?

Its said that about 15% of the cases aren't cured by "first line treatment." I know a lot of people who don't get cured by "first line treatment" because that is usually the weakest effective treatment.

Also, the article states

Also, Gonorrhea cases are down in the US.

The sky ISN'T falling.
Head in the sand again?

How about this - Why don't YOU post an article from a competent medical journal or a government medical body that says there isn't anything to worry about? That antibiotics are going to remain effective and all this contrary talk is just paranoia?

And my comments weren't limited to gonorrhea. I am talking about all infectious diseases.

MRSA is a problem in hospitals and the only defense we have against it is a major scrubbing of every surface in every operating room and recovery room.

Every year 10s of millions of people get prescriptions for antibiotics. 15% of that number constitutes MILLIONS of people who have to go to a second drug.

And that 15% is increasing as more strains of bacteria become resistant.

The antibiotics we developed in the past were the low hanging fruit. They were relatively easy to discover and did not cost an exorbitant amount for R&D.

But the low hanging fruit is now gone. Future antibiotics - if there are any to be had - will cost an exorbitant amount of money to discover - IF you discover them. Drug companies don't want to take big risks for doubtful rewards.

So, few if any companies are still looking for new antibiotics.

The clock is ticking on the ones we have.

Or do you have some alternative theory you would like to offer that explains how the drugs we still have will continue to be effective - even though they already are ineffective against some diseases?
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...And the pharmaceutical companies keep developing new antibiotics. Pfizer, J & J, Astra, Glaxo, etc. all have deep pockets, enormous profits and huge research budgets. Perhaps the biggest obstacle in their way is the FDA and possible new regulations and price controls coming down the pipeline from the ACA.
30 years ago Keflex was the cure all...how many other antibiotics have been developed since then?
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In case you haven't noticed, sex with a professional seems to be safer than some lady you meet at a grocery store. That is because it is an industry standard to use a condom. I have now seen ads from law firms telling men that if they are damaged by testosterone treatments they should contact these attorneys. When will the war against men stop! People are going to have sex! Instead of quibbling about how dangerous it is, we should get insurance companies to cover sexually related drugs like Viagra. Has anyone noticed the squabble over paying for birth control pills? They have risks too! Life is a risk! Get over it .
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...And the pharmaceutical companies keep developing new antibiotics. Pfizer, J & J, Astra, Glaxo, etc. all have deep pockets, enormous profits and huge research budgets.
Yes, but but little research/development is going into new antibiotics. It's going into medicines that make the most money - that is, medicines that people take a lifetime; for their diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc, etc. When you take an antibiotic, you may take a round or two - anywhere from a week to a month; as opposed to the meds you'll take for the rest of your life for your blood pressure; diabetes, etc, etc.
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Are you nuts? Or just desperate to keep seeing hookers?

This has been reported around the world by competent medical authorities for over a decade.

One by one, all of our antibiotics have become useless as bacteria evolve.

Do you think ALL of those medical bodies are lying? Are you some bible thumper that denies evolution?

Penicillin doesn't work against many (most?) of the diseases it worked against 30 years ago.

Ahem.....pardon my interruption, but hookers aren't the only humans at risk for STD's...more high of a risk perhaps. That would be like saying all clients request BBFS.
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...And the pharmaceutical companies keep developing new antibiotics. Pfizer, J & J, Astra, Glaxo, etc. all have deep pockets, enormous profits and huge research budgets. Perhaps the biggest obstacle in their way is the FDA and possible new regulations and price controls coming down the pipeline from the ACA.
Not true. It has been a long time since pharma companies developed a new antibiotic. And very few a looking for new ones because of the long odds.

The easy antibiotics - the low hanging fruit - have already been found.
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Yes, but but little research/development is going into new antibiotics. It's going into medicines that make the most money - that is, medicines that people take a lifetime; for their diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc, etc. When you take an antibiotic, you may take a round or two - anywhere from a week to a month; as opposed to the meds you'll take for the rest of your life for your blood pressure; diabetes, etc, etc.
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Not true. It has been a long time since pharma companies developed a new antibiotic. And very few a looking for new ones because of the long odds.

The easy antibiotics - the low hanging fruit - have already been found.
And money will drive the development of the next generation of antibiotics provided you believe in the laws of supply and demand.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/05/he...mrsa.html?_r=0
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