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02-05-2014, 02:54 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Apr 22, 2009
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Don't hurt a kid
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Originally Posted by MsElena
…………. Wouldn't it bother you and make you wanna turn someone in if you knew they were sleeping with a minor for money? Or you knew for a fact that a pimp was turning out a minor?
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Well,
We agree again. Will wonders never cease. Everyone should protect the children.
The depths of hell is reserved for child molesters.
JR
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02-06-2014, 03:07 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Nov 1, 2010
Location: Missouri
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FWIW, since a number of people asked, no, KC is not an STD capital, but whatever makes the OP sleep with her vitrol at night.
If you Google search STDs in the US, it depends on whether you want to look by number of cases or rates per capita.
The CDC basically tracks Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Chlamydia & Aids.
Bottom line is depending on how you want to look at it, New Orleans area, Miami area & NY/ NJ area area all high on the list. KC/MO/KS nowhere to be found.
So either she's completely wrong, speaking of something else (crabs/herpes) or knows something the CDC doesn't. At least through the end of 2012.
At any rate, I do understand her bigger issue. I mean how dare a guy pay her $200 an hour advertized escort rate & actually expect sex for that? She's an escort not a prostitute. It cost $350 to have sex with her. Its not in the ad, but it should be implied. (Smh)
Reminds me of a old joke: guy asks a girl in a bar if she'll have sex with him for $1 million. She says yes. He then asks if she'll do it for $20. She says"What do I look like? A hooker?". Guy says "We've already established that. Now we're just haggling over a price."
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02-06-2014, 04:47 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Mar 26, 2012
Location: Wichita, Ks
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So Lacy you say you're an escort not a prostitute, yet you then say you charge more for sex. Then you say you dont see young men because they only want sex. Then you claim bp6570 was too young for you. And honey, I've been to the Bay area and I'll just point out that them assholes wanted to negotiate rates and wanted my full gfe services. So maybe you are a liar. Lol. I was lucky to get my advertised rate and I am gfe. And sex is not discussed when we advertise our services here in the midwest. Its kinda common sense. By the way, you killed discretion when you stated pieces of y'all's conversation and requests asked of bp.
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02-06-2014, 07:10 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Jun 10, 2012
Location: MSOG or GTFO
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Wow.
Let me say I am not from Kansas City, I am here visiting, but let me also sayyou will lose more business from this post than that negative review. First off you imply that the girls here are cheap whores that will do anything for a low price and that you are a wonderful saint that only does those gross disgusting things for more money. You are somehow better than them.
Then you basically call the guys gross assholes that have STDs.
I travel and see lots of girls around the country. There are different rates in different places. If you want business you do the local rate like it or not. You don't bitch about it later. Did you notify the gent that you would offer limited services for the reduced fee? I imagine not. You received an honest review. Suck it up and be a big girl and stop insulting the locals and bragging about how you no longer lower yourself by working here.
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02-06-2014, 07:44 PM
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#50
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BANNED
Join Date: Feb 1, 2014
Location: Van down by the river
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Originally Posted by Lilidoeskc
. Places like KC require a provider to give more of a GFE for $300-$350 including LFK, DFK, BBBJ, and DATY including FS in any and every form. Hell for $350, you had probably be willing to do bbbj and then do Greek and return to bbbj here. The gentlemen here are some of the sweetest, you just can't expect them to be happy if they are used to spending their hard earned $350 or even $250 and not getting a bbbj. Take it from a recent KC transplant, the men are way more pleasant when they are getting for what they pay for as I am sure goes for other Midwest cities and states. Let me simplify by breaking down the economics of your main concern, which may I add is valid. NY city average gross income for the middle class business man = $$$$$. KC and other Midwest area average gross income for the middle class business man = $$$.
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I get the idea that the client wasnt happy with the service because it wasnt what he thought he'd be getting
Easy solution to this and I don't know why I don't see it more often on this board.
clear communication
a provider has words to desrcibe different levels of services:
Escort (GFE),
Escort (Limited GFE),
Escort (PSE)
I have no idea what those services include? Maybe my definition of a GFE isnt the same as yours./(does a GFE mean she'll suck my dick and do my laundry? OR Sort of like when you go to ANYPLACE and order a HAMBURGER and they ask you "duh, do you want cheese on that?"
If I did I would have ordered a CHEESEBURGER)
I'm sure you'd get more clients if you were clear about prices for services
Every service orientated company tells you what they will do for what money,
Just like any other business does.
I have a maid who comes once a week, I didnt hire the 1st maid I called, who told me she'd clean "good"
I hired the one who told me the levels of service and what she'd do
Providers have levels, Escort (GFE), Escort (Limited GFE), Escort (PSE)
just explain the cost and what services are provided, is there anyone who does that on this board?
if not, why not?
if so, who? I want to see them!
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02-07-2014, 06:05 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Apr 22, 2009
Location: Somewhere East
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Old Memories
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Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker
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I have no idea what those services include? Maybe my definition of a GFE isnt the same as yours./(does a GFE mean she'll suck my dick and do my laundry?………….
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Thank you for bringing that up. I had that happen once. A favorite girl from Plaza Escorts, before Master Dennis acquired the agency, stayed over for an 1.5 hours while she did my laundry and we talked and had drinks. I liked her a lot, and we kinda became friends. She retired and sent a couple of her girl friends. Darn, most of the good ones retire from the hobby.
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02-07-2014, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 1, 2010
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Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker
Providers have levels, Escort (GFE), Escort (Limited GFE), Escort (PSE)
just explain the cost and what services are provided, is there anyone who does that on this board?
if not, why not?
if so, who? I want to see them!
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See, the problem is that the activities that some people are interested in are actually illegal if the customer pays money in exchange for them (crazy, right?). So some people are reluctant to make a statement that specifically lists what actions they will do for a specific fee. That leads to ambiguity, as the service providers resort to euphemisms such as "GFE" or "full-service" or "five star" in an attempt to not go on the record providing sexual services for money.
Of course it would be easier if the provider said "For $200 you get 30 minutes and I'll suck your dick with a condom but you can't kiss me or lick my pussy. For $50 more I'll suck your dick without a condom OR we can kiss and do DATY. For $100 additional, or $300 total, you can do all of that, which is my GFE Level. For a full hour, add $100. If you go to my Web site I've created a simple calculator. Just enter in the desired amount of time and what activities you want and it will tell you my rate."
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02-07-2014, 06:41 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Jun 27, 2012
Location: Kansas City
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Originally Posted by KCQuestor
See, the problem is that the activities that some people are interested in are actually illegal if the customer pays money in exchange for them (crazy, right?). So some people are reluctant to make a statement that specifically lists what actions they will do for a specific fee. That leads to ambiguity, as the service providers resort to euphemisms such as "GFE" or "full-service" or "five star" in an attempt to not go on the record providing sexual services for money.
Of course it would be easier if the provider said "For $200 you get 30 minutes and I'll suck your dick with a condom but you can't kiss me or lick my pussy. For $50 more I'll suck your dick without a condom OR we can kiss and do DATY. For $100 additional, or $300 total, you can do all of that, which is my GFE Level. For a full hour, add $100. If you go to my Web site I've created a simple calculator. Just enter in the desired amount of time and what activities you want and it will tell you my rate."
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I know I am not a GFE provider, but this is still why I have a menu, so that there is NO confusion on what I do and do not offer.
If providers are nervous about openly having a menu for everyone to see due to legal reasons, they could always create a password protected menu, and only allow people to access it after they have been screened. If the providers are screening like they say they are there shouldn't be an issue with letting a screened gent know what activities can take place.
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02-07-2014, 08:53 PM
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LOST IN THE GT
Join Date: Mar 16, 2011
Location: Kansas Hill Country
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Love the opinions...BUTTT....
I think she has moved on....her last post was like 41 posts ago..
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02-27-2014, 12:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 1, 2014
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Thanks for the advice but I do not feel like I came off as a stuck up rich bitch.. I feel that every woman should get the absolute most if this is what she chooses to do. Call me a femminist and sex work rights activist, if you will. I do have a menu on my website & on my P411 account so that was his fault for not taking the time to view the information, which is another pet peeve of mine. You have certain expectations but take no time into trying to find out weather or not that it is offered.
I do not think I said or did anything wrong. More women should come forward and demand respect from men in this industry. I am not a blow up doll I am a human being, just like they are. I do not judge anyone so do not judge me. All I did was stand up for myself & explain my view point. This industry is not made for a woman to be treated like crap just because she is being paid for a service. I firmly believe that you get what you pay for, so if it was evident I was unhappy with the price that was his fault for continuing to see me even thought I was clear this was not what I was used to. He could have decided to see another provider. I am never rude or mean I just simply say what I will & will not do. This has no effect on my business anyways Because I rarely get client off Eccie as it is. I prefer to stick to TER, P411, & date-check because the client there are more appealing to me & my personal preference of how I want to be treated.
Shout Out to Kristen DiAngelo the director of the documentary #American Courtesans shedding light on the most positive side of the sex work industry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivnWR282COU
http://www.iswface.org/ Non Profit Organization Standing up for the rights of Sex Workers... We Will Be Silenced NO MORE!!
@lacy_loves_u @KristenDiAngelo on Twitter
Watch the documentary for FREE on HULU http://www.hulu.com/watch/588486
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02-27-2014, 01:01 PM
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Also note I do not charge extra for this or for that. It is one flat rate. Who charges extra for this or that? it either is or it isn't! I lowered my donation in KC because I was receiving no business at my higher rate. I was just not doing or advertising as GFE at all. So those activities were not included. Period. Not to anyone even if they had offered me extra. I really don't care what anyone has to think. I never said that the girls in KC are cheap whores people are completely twisting my words around. Take it how you want this is not about them, this was about me!! If that what she chooses to do thats good for her she has every right to decide what she wants to do with her body!! but I have the choice not to. I have the right to feel how I want. To me prostitutes are the girls who walk up & down the street soliciting sex. Escorts are those who advertise on the internet & keep everything behind closed doors. I never said it wasn't sex work. Maybe I could have worded it better but my intentions were in the right place... Once again I don't care what any of you think of me. I am a very strong, bold individual & I will not change myself for anyone!
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02-27-2014, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 8, 2010
Location: Wichita, KS
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Did you inform them that your services will be limited at that rate (your KC rate) before setting up the appointment ?
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02-27-2014, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Apr 12, 2010
Location: Topeka, Ks
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Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries
Thanks for the advice but I do not feel like I came off as a stuck up rich bitch.. I feel that every woman should get the absolute most if this is what she chooses to do. Call me a femminist and sex work rights activist, if you will. I do have a menu on my website & on my P411 account so that was his fault for not taking the time to view the information, which is another pet peeve of mine. You have certain expectations but take no time into trying to find out weather or not that it is offered.
I do not think I said or did anything wrong. More women should come forward and demand respect from men in this industry. I am not a blow up doll I am a human being, just like they are. I do not judge anyone so do not judge me. All I did was stand up for myself & explain my view point. This industry is not made for a woman to be treated like crap just because she is being paid for a service. I firmly believe that you get what you pay for, so if it was evident I was unhappy with the price that was his fault for continuing to see me even thought I was clear this was not what I was used to. He could have decided to see another provider. I am never rude or mean I just simply say what I will & will not do. This has no effect on my business anyways Because I rarely get client off Eccie as it is. I prefer to stick to TER, P411, & date-check because the client there are more appealing to me & my personal preference of how I want to be treated.
Shout Out to Kristen DiAngelo the director of the documentary #American Courtesans shedding light on the most positive side of the sex work industry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivnWR282COU
http://www.iswface.org/ Non Profit Organization Standing up for the rights of Sex Workers... We Will Be Silenced NO MORE!!
@lacy_loves_u @KristenDiAngelo on Twitter
Watch the documentary for FREE on HULU http://www.hulu.com/watch/588486
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Also note I do not charge extra for this or for that. It is one flat rate. Who charges extra for this or that? it either is or it isn't! I lowered my donation in KC because I was receiving no business at my higher rate. I was just not doing or advertising as GFE at all. So those activities were not included. Period. Not to anyone even if they had offered me extra. I really don't care what anyone has to think. I never said that the girls in KC are cheap whores people are completely twisting my words around. Take it how you want this is not about them, this was about me!! If that what she chooses to do thats good for her she has every right to decide what she wants to do with her body!! but I have the choice not to. I have the right to feel how I want. To me prostitutes are the girls who walk up & down the street soliciting sex. Escorts are those who advertise on the internet & keep everything behind closed doors. I never said it wasn't sex work. Maybe I could have worded it better but my intentions were in the right place... Once again I don't care what any of you think of me. I am a very strong, bold individual & I will not change myself for anyone!
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Just move on...
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02-27-2014, 02:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 25, 2010
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Please don't come back to KC. Obviously, you don't want to deal with the low class riff-raff here and we don't want to figure out if we're paying you enough to get your full "services".
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02-27-2014, 02:33 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2, 2010
Location: kansas city
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Different Market = different pricing
Lacy, I don't doubt that you are worth every penny you charge for your time. Sometimes those of us in the midwest are perhaps a little too sensitive in responding to perceived criticism from those providers visiting here from other areas of the country (different markets). Rather than just say you'll never visit again, why not set dates for possibe visits and see if you can pre-book enough to make your visit cost effective? Try to target your clients buy posting "no one under 35"? I think to be fair, your "critcism/complaint/comment" is not unique to KC.
Finally, you have to take into consideration that local gentlemen are just spoiled as hell with great providers with which we are familar with whom we tend to repeat even with rates comparable to yours. So let's all not get weird about this. Lacy made a comment in which she later admitted may not have been stated as accurately as she may have, and we all know that this is not an uncommon observation in the business.
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