Sugar babies can be far better at times!!

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

Escorts look up to Julia Robert's role in 'Pretty Woman', Sugar babies idolize (Howard J Marshall's) Anna Nicole Smith...suck an old dick for a benz vs suck a dick for $400 - slightly distanced spectrums.

J. Howard Marshall...God Rest His Soul. Serves as a lesson to get everything transferred into your name, sooner rather than later.

[samantha thom]

Did you mean to post this in the mens lounge? Cause how is that better? I can work for 1 hour to make that kind of money. Then buy my own movie and drinks or invite a real friend and still have extra time left to do what I choose. And my pussy won't be raw. LOL….sorry for the sarcasm. LOL

[Old-T]

Samantha, I have never been in that kind of relationship, but I know four ladies who "retired" from escorting to go into a SB relationship. What they said were the benefits to them:
--Predictability of income
--Reduced risk of seeing new (unknown) people
--Easier to arrange their schedules

In all three cases the ladies were in school full time and discussed the time arrangements with the guy involved to make it clear that the arrangement could not interfere with getting their degree which was their primary objective. I think in all the cases they had a more "traditional" escort arrangement with the guy prior, and the ladies decided this individual man was compatible with what they needed it terms of time commitment, financial expectations, and interests (a big part of it for each of them was that they liked similar things and they liked the guy to some degree). In all the cases they made near as much as when they were escorting (in one case a LOT more), and while they spent more hours with the guy, they said the total hours (posting ads, screening guys, etc.) was about the same.

One woman ended the arrangement when she got her PhD--it no longer fit her life or her needs. One actually married the guy after he divorced his wife; their marriage lasted a while, and seems to still be good. A third I lost track of and don't know how it turned out. The fourth one was my ATF when she was working and is still a very good friend. Her benefactor took exceptional care of her--$600,000 condo, trips around the globe, etc.--until he died.

Certainly not for everyone on either side, but I know in those three cases the ladies decided it was right for them.

[Karrine_Kream]

Correct me if I am wrong but she sounds like an escort to me. I mean there are guys in the hobby that may maintain a bit of communication with escorts they' ve been with that would get this same kind of deal.

I mean lets just say she is your ATF and you as a man I would think enjoys variety or else you wouldn't be pursuing a "SD/SB relationship. Therefore I think you will still pay another woman for her time-regardless if you are with you SB or not.

So what is the difference?

I suppose it would be what you are simply seeking.-A deeper connection maybe? Some receive that in the hobby.

Why do guys only assume escorts are juggling 20 guys a day or week?

I really think guys look at a SD/SB relationship because they feel that they are the ONLY ONE hitting or one of two or three. They want the most out of their money-which I completely agree-I DO TOO.

I mean both work simply for the individual at hand. Some don't care about any of the things I mentioned for SD/SB relationships.

They simply want to contact/meet/cum & go.
Others desire more.

I personally have considered being a sb- I enjoy more extended encounters-connections to a level of respect and boundaries but I find lots of those guys are seeking naïve young girls to take advantage of and are NOT willing to gain trust they expect you to go off their every word and that hasn't worked for me personally.

But interesting post. I am also wondering what your future arrangement will be-assuming she doesn't feel over used and wont require the same agreement each meeting.

Which makes me think-if this is a monthly deal you can bet you aren't the only one in her life...point blank period.

[PFCffff]

Originally Posted by Karrine_Kream

Correct me if I am wrong but she sounds like an escort to me. I mean there are guys in the hobby that may maintain a bit of communication with escorts they' ve been with that would get this same kind of deal.

I mean lets just say she is your ATF and you as a man I would think enjoys variety or else you wouldn't be pursuing a "SD/SB relationship. Therefore I think you will still pay another woman for her time-regardless if you are with you SB or not.

So what is the difference?

I suppose it would be what you are simply seeking.-A deeper connection maybe? Some receive that in the hobby.

Why do guys only assume escorts are juggling 20 guys a day or week?

I really think guys look at a SD/SB relationship because they feel that they are the ONLY ONE hitting or one of two or three. They want the most out of their money-which I completely agree-I DO TOO.

I mean both work simply for the individual at hand. Some don't care about any of the things I mentioned for SD/SB relationships.

They simply want to contact/meet/cum & go.
Others desire more.

I personally have considered being a sb- I enjoy more extended encounters-connections to a level of respect and boundaries but I find lots of those guys are seeking naïve young girls to take advantage of and are NOT willing to gain trust they expect you to go off their every word and that hasn't worked for me personally.

But interesting post. I am also wondering what your future arrangement will be-assuming she doesn't feel over used and wont require the same agreement each meeting.

Which makes me think-if this is a monthly deal you can bet you aren't the only one in her life...point blank period.

Because they are. 3 or 4 dates a day 5 to 6 days a week. Not that hard to do. Assuming 250 per, that's 5K per week, 250K per year. This is the minimum I expect the professionals are doing.

[Karrine_Kream]

I don't know about them but I don't do that, maybe that's why so many feel SB are more appealing.

[Rehke]

Originally Posted by PFCffff

Because they are. 3 or 4 dates a day 5 to 6 days a week. Not that hard to do. Assuming 250 per, that's 5K per week, 250K per year. This is the minimum I expect the professionals are doing.

From what I've seen, providers have to deal with some sort of cycles in their business model. What that might represent a theoretical income, I suspect a true accounting would be much less.

Add to that some of the expenses (outcall locations, etc.) and lifestyle choices and as far as I can tell most providers enjoy far less disposable income though they earn at a higher hourly rate than I do.

I think that the initial influx of cash and the occasional big score have an effect similar to drugs for both strippers and providers. Rarely do I see one with a lifestyle that would reflect their earning rates. Some of it is how they can squander their own money, but I think even more of it is that the slow days really cancel out the better ones.

There are also the girls who take one appointment, which ends up covering their needs for the next day or so and then they stop working until they are broke again.

For most of the girls I've known enough to make some observations, they are surviving by providing, not achieving any true measure of success.

Also, yeah, sounds like the OP found a hooker, not a SB. Or at least he treated her like a hooker. A SB is not cheap pussy. Spend some time in the SD forum or reading the threads in the D&T forum on SB's.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by PFCffff

Because they are. 3 or 4 dates a day 5 to 6 days a week. Not that hard to do. Assuming 250 per, that's 5K per week, 250K per year. This is the minimum I expect the professionals are doing.

Wow. Those numbers are SERIOUSLY out of line with the reality of most ladies. Not even close.

I suspect there are some ladies who might fit those numbers, but far less than than most guys think.

[Mssppislm]

Originally Posted by Rehke

A SB is not cheap pussy.

^^^This

Originally Posted by Old-T

Wow. Those numbers are SERIOUSLY out of line with the reality of most ladies. Not even close.

I suspect there are some ladies who might fit those numbers, but far less than than most guys think.

^^^ & This

[Karrine_Kream]

REHKE:

Also, yeah, sounds like the OP found a hooker, not a SB. Or at least he treated her like a hooker. A SB is not cheap pussy. Spend some time in the SD forum or reading the threads in the D&T forum on SB's.

My thoughts as well. But a lot of guys feel that is a SB/SD relationship. ONLY because they feel Escorts/providers are hourly dates and the poor girl they chose to spend a fourth of the day with required less hourly wise.

They feel a little better about spending more time less money.

My only question to the OP was "What really made this a SD/SB relationship? Or what is really going to make this one?"

[Rehke]

I'm not sure I'm going to go with you on the poor girl thing.

It takes two to tango and she bears responsibility for her choices as well.

What I do not know is if this was a normal girl who ended up getting treated like a hooker, which I would consider unfortunate

or

a UTR hookerish kind of girl

or what. If, in the end, she had a satisfactory experience and received value for what she gave, then who am I to judge?

I will say that anyone making judgments on a time=money basis simply does not get it either.

While I can credit at least one provider with really beating it into my head that everything wasn't about sex, I do have to point out that for her, everything was about the money.

Originally Posted by Karrine_Kream

REHKE:

Also, yeah, sounds like the OP found a hooker, not a SB. Or at least he treated her like a hooker. A SB is not cheap pussy. Spend some time in the SD forum or reading the threads in the D&T forum on SB's.

My thoughts as well. But a lot of guys feel that is a SB/SD relationship. ONLY because they feel Escorts/providers are hourly dates and the poor girl they chose to spend a fourth of the day with required less hourly wise.

They feel a little better about spending more time less money.

My only question to the OP was "What really made this a SD/SB relationship? Or what is really going to make this one?"

[kiki2012]

Originally Posted by dallashog

I did the SD thing twice before I started the hobby and must say I enjoy the hobby a lot more. The things I enjoy he most are 1. I find it less expensive in the long run than maintaining an SB relationship, 2. The emotional side is non existent in the hobby while in. The SD/SB roles emotions are bound to surface. And 3. The knowledge that that someone would find out about my secret life is very minimal in the hobby. Again just my thoughts.

I so agree!! I used to be on SD site. Twice the s.o. found out and well you know! Credit cards use will show up!! This site a lot less drama. Lol

[Eva Damita]

Fact: Despite the general agreed on meaning of SD/SB relationships, the precise definition varies individually. That said, for me a SD/SB affair is my friend, lover, and bedroom playmate with NSA. I appreciate his generosity and support of his family, and he appreciates my goals and aspirations as a young and independent Belle.

And by the way, even when touring, I visit with 1-3 Lovers within two days. When not touring, and home in DFW, it's hardly that amount (1-3) a week if that, as I do entertain as well. This is sufficient to support me and only me,and that's what truly matters for all ladies. From screening, to touring methods (and boy, this is a big one), finances as we all have different bills, etc, providers need to rely on experience to discover what works for their business. Play safely

[Guest062114-5]

My guy friend once quipped:

Sugar Babies are like Home Renovations and Contractors. You get very excited at first! But then, they don't always show up as planned. They cost twice as much. And when you're ready for them to leave, they stick around twice as long as you'd like. So you end up just paying them off. But overall, you're satisfied with the end result.

[notanewbie]

Originally Posted by LilMynx69

My guy friend once quipped:

Sugar Babies are like Home Renovations and Contractors. You get very excited at first! But then, they don't always show up as planned. They cost twice as much. And when you're ready for them to leave, they stick around twice as long as you'd like. So you end up just paying them off. But overall, you're satisfied with the end result.

a very wise friend. Darn Mynx, you stay on a roll.