For those of you who prefer the existing heakth care system

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

The ACA does not start until another 90 minutes, unless you are under 26 and can be on your parents plan. When the ACA does start, she would probably fall under Medicaid. Did she have health insurance before she got into this condition?

Who has been "paying the tab" up to now ...? So what's changed in "90 minutes"?

"Pea and the shell game" ... the "pea" is there ... different shell. You find it!

You have been buying Obaminable's snake oil ....... the label is false.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

You are 100% incorrect.

If a private insurance company wishes to provide health insurance, there are minimum requirements that must be met UNLESS THE CARRIER FALLS WITHIN ONE OF THE EXEMPT CATEGORIES PROVIDING COVERAGE TO EXEMPT INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS, and they can then be in the "pool" of "approved" carriers .....

other persons needing health care coverage not qualifying and/or unable to pay ....

.. will be allowed to sign up for Medicare!

The Government cannot ORDER an insurance company to provide health insurance.

The Government cannot ORDER a provider to provide certain services.*

*Except based on Constitutional grounds within a specific, individualized situation in which a court can ORDER a provider NOT TO DISCONTINUE TREATMENT ALREADY GIVEN or GIVE TREATMENT TO OTHERS SIMILARLY SITUATED.

"Obamacare" merely facilitates the acquisition of AVAILABLE COVERAGE... it is a MISNOVER as far as providing any CARE.

Why the hell do you think the ADMINISTRATION changed the name ..... people were LOSING THEIR CARE!!!!!!

BCBS and Humana are selling policies on the government exchange. They are not private health insurance companies? I did not say that the government ordered them to sell policies on the exchanges. These companies and others chose to do so.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

BCBS and Humana are selling policies on the government exchange. They are not private health insurance companies? I did not say that the government ordered them to sell policies on the exchanges. These companies and others chose to do so.

Huh?

"The Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association is a national federation of 37 independent, community-based and locally operated Blue Cross® and Blue Shield® companies. The Association owns and manages the Blue Cross and Blue Shield trademarks and names in more than 170 countries and the territories around world. The Association grants licenses to independent companies to use the trademarks and names in exclusive geographic areas.

"The Association also operates several business initiatives in support of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies and represents the Blue System in national forums. In this role as a national association, BCBSA is responsible for advancing Blue Cross and Blue Shield interests in legislative and regulatory initiatives in Washington, D.C., as well as coordinating legislative, regulatory and political strategy for the Blue System.
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Companies

Operating and offering healthcare coverage in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, the 37 Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies cover 100 million Americans. Nationwide, more than 96% of hospitals and 92% of professional providers contract with Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies — more than any other insurer.
Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies offer a variety of insurance products to all segments of the population, including large employer groups, small business and individuals. The Blues® currently serve 85% of Fortune 100 companies and 76% of Fortune 500 companies. Moreover, the Blues have enrolled more than half of all U.S. federal workers, retirees and their families, making the Federal Employee Program the largest single health plan group in the world."


Re Humana!

"Investor Relations
"Corporate Profile
"Humana Inc., headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky, is a leading health care company that offers a wide range of insurance products and health and wellness services that incorporate an integrated approach to lifelong well-being. By leveraging the strengths of its core businesses, Humana believes it can better explore opportunities for existing and emerging adjacencies in health care that can further enhance wellness opportunities for the millions of people across the nation with whom the company has relationships."

You think the government owns them? They are privately OWNED. That makes them ...

a "private company"!!!

[LexusLover]

Happy Fucking 2014 folks with "Oabamacare Insurance"!!!!

[FU_CC]

you up early ... happy new year

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by FU_CC

you up early ... happy new year

Everyday. Someone has to feed the chickens.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Huh?

"The Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association is a national federation of 37 independent, community-based and locally operated Blue Cross® and Blue Shield® companies. The Association owns and manages the Blue Cross and Blue Shield trademarks and names in more than 170 countries and the territories around world. The Association grants licenses to independent companies to use the trademarks and names in exclusive geographic areas.

"The Association also operates several business initiatives in support of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies and represents the Blue System in national forums. In this role as a national association, BCBSA is responsible for advancing Blue Cross and Blue Shield interests in legislative and regulatory initiatives in Washington, D.C., as well as coordinating legislative, regulatory and political strategy for the Blue System.
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Companies

Operating and offering healthcare coverage in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, the 37 Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies cover 100 million Americans. Nationwide, more than 96% of hospitals and 92% of professional providers contract with Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies — more than any other insurer.
Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies offer a variety of insurance products to all segments of the population, including large employer groups, small business and individuals. The Blues® currently serve 85% of Fortune 100 companies and 76% of Fortune 500 companies. Moreover, the Blues have enrolled more than half of all U.S. federal workers, retirees and their families, making the Federal Employee Program the largest single health plan group in the world."


Re Humana!

"Investor Relations
"Corporate Profile
"Humana Inc., headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky, is a leading health care company that offers a wide range of insurance products and health and wellness services that incorporate an integrated approach to lifelong well-being. By leveraging the strengths of its core businesses, Humana believes it can better explore opportunities for existing and emerging adjacencies in health care that can further enhance wellness opportunities for the millions of people across the nation with whom the company has relationships."

You think the government owns them? They are privately OWNED. That makes them ...

a "private company"!!!

Why the lecture LL? Neither company is controlled by the government like Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. I would consider IBM a private company, they sell shares of stock so they are not privately owned. The point I was trying to make in the other reply is that Obamacare and Medicare are different. RedL was saying they are the same.

[Yssup Rider]

Cigna, Humana, Aetna, et al, are selling policies in Texas through healthcare.gov. They are absolutely private insurance companies. Medicare, on the other hand, is the government and what THEY pay doctors sets the bar for the private companies, which is why so many of them developed their own "death panels" decades ago.

The system was so seriously fucked up and corrupt that reform was imminent. And it has only just begun.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL ARGUING ABOUT, LLIDIOT? You're going down (pun intended) with your whiny bitch ship in Shoal Creek ... you know, the one near Clarksville!

It's January 1.

I'm COVERED!

Fuck you!

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Who has been "paying the tab" up to now ...? So what's changed in "90 minutes"?

"Pea and the shell game" ... the "pea" is there ... different shell. You find it!

You have been buying Obaminable's snake oil ....... the label is false.

If you signed up for an Obamacare policy and paid your premium, if you got sick after midnight, you would be covered and could submit a claim. That is what changed.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Cigna, Humana, Aetna, et al, are selling policies in Texas through healthcare.gov. They are absolutely private insurance companies. Medicare, on the other hand, is the government and what THEY pay doctors sets the bar for the private companies, which is why so many of them developed their own "death panels" decades ago.

The system was so seriously fucked up and corrupt that reform was imminent. And it has only just begun.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL ARGUING ABOUT, LLIDIOT? You're going down (pun intended) with your whiny bitch ship in Shoal Creek ... you know, the one near Clarksville!

It's January 1.

I'm COVERED!

Fuck you!

I was trying to figure out the same thing. We know he does not like the ACA.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

If you signed up for an Obamacare policy and paid your premium, if you got sick after midnight, you would be covered and could submit a claim. That is what changed.

.............. that's up to the individual carrier ....

The President of the United States of America ..........

...............CANNOT dictate to private insurance companies what and when they must cover health care claims. Period.

That has not changed.

The agency can modify the qualifications for Medicaid and allow uninsured persons to sign up for Medicaid, which is paid by the State.

That is NOT an "Obamacare Policy"!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

I was trying to figure out the same thing. We know he does not like the ACA.

You talking about me? If I am what YouRong calls me ...

.. I should LOVE the ACA .... may be you should ( or can ) look at like this ....

You don't like the government telling you who to fuck and whether you can pay for it ....


I don't either.

I also don't like the government telling me I have to be insured with a policy and ....

..... whether I can refuse to pay for it or not ... at the risk of being penalized with a tax.

Does that help?

Now the government is telling you what her hair color must be, whether she has a shaved pussy, and how many times a month you can fuck her. And telling her when she has to fuck you and in what positions. Because the government has decided it knows better.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Why the lecture LL? Neither company is controlled by the government like ..... .

Up until now they (insurance companies) were controlled by the States .... look it up!

The Federal government has gotten into the regulation of health insurance carriers ... sorta.

First you say they aren't private. Then you say the government is not controlling them.

Which is it? The government (see above) regulates health insurance companies ..

BCBS & Humana ... et al. All this shit is about "Federalizing" the health insurance business. Period.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Medicare, on the other hand, is the government and what THEY pay doctors sets the bar for the private companies, which is why so many of them developed their own "death panels" decades ago.

Do you just make this shit up, or do you actually believe that crap?

No wonder you don't know where Nau's ENFIELD Drug is located!!!!!!!!!!

Medicare doesn't set what private companies pay doctors.

Why the fuck do you think that doctors are stopping taking Medicare patients?

Because MEDICARE DOES NOT PAY AS WELL AS PRIVATE COMPANIES!!!!

DUH!!!!!

Do you have a clue as to how Medicare codes/charges are determined? Can I answer it?

Fuck No! Or you wouldn't make such a dumb-ass remark.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Do you just make this shit up, or do you actually believe that crap?

No wonder you don't know where Nau's ENFIELD Drug is located!!!!!!!!!!

Medicare doesn't set what private companies pay doctors.

Why the fuck do you think that doctors are stopping taking Medicare patients?

Because MEDICARE DOES NOT PAY AS WELL AS PRIVATE COMPANIES!!!!

DUH!!!!!

Do you have a clue as to how Medicare codes/charges are determined? Can I answer it?

Fuck No! Or you wouldn't make such a dumb-ass remark.

It's an index called the SGR. Look it up. of course, we all know you know all, right?

when Medicare reduces reimbursement to physicians, the private plans follow suit. I never said Medicare paid as well as the private companies. You're the one making the shit up, LLIdiot.

Keep painting yourself into a corner, leech.

You're as ignorant as your are arrogant. No wonder you had to write four posts in a row. Can't figure it out. You truly ARE a member of the idiot family! along with your sisters! JD and IB.

And Nau's Enfield Drug is on West Lynn, in Clarksville. Nowhere near enfield road. keep arguing that one, dicksuck.