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Old 11-15-2013, 01:31 AM   #76
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The primary reason the Republicans gave for nominating Romney was that he was "electable". Who do you think is electable, ExGYer?
What the fuck is "ExGYer"?

Mitch Daniels would have been electable. But he steered clear because he did not want to drag his family through mud from 20 years ago when his wife and he had some marital difficulties and she walked out on him for a short period. The GOP competitors probably would have brought that up, but the Dems definitely would have.

Jon Huntsman would have been more electable than Romney. But he committed the cardinal sin of working with Democrats and serving as ambassador to Chine under Barack Obama. So people like you decided that Ron Paul was more electable.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:49 AM   #77
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Really? Are you that stupidly OCD argumentative that you are actually trying to tell me whose posts I am allowed to like?

You want to know why am I not trying to guess who the other 25 are? Did you actually ask that? I gave examples of four "mopes" who would chime in to vote "Yes" and you want to know why I'm not trying to list ALL who would vote "Yes"?

Why would I need to? I'm giving examples, shit head, not an exhaustive list. And wouldn't that just reinforce my case in any event?

But that is a perfect example of your stupid style of argumentation. If somebody states reasons X, Y, and Z for doing something, you don't bother to reply to those reasons. Instead, you demand to know why the person didn't discuss reasons A, B, and C also or instead. In other words, change the subject.

So, rather than argue that you, IFFY, JDB, and Whirlagay are NOT, in fact, a bunch of "mopes', you demand to know why I did not guess who the other 25 mopes are.

Brilliant argumentation.

Like I said in the other thread, you write like an eighth grader. An emotionally disturbed, off-his-meds, eighth grader.

BTW - you were LONG AGO established as a lying hypocrite and a racist, Confederate sympathizer. So, naturally, you try to accuse everyone else of the same thing in order to deflect, deflect, deflect.
Just pointed out that your stated position reeks of hypocrisy, you no good, hypocritical, lying, racist dumb-fuck Yankee jackass, and that your no good, lying, racist dumb-fuck Yankee ass epitomizes the definition of a "hypocrite", you no good, hypocritical, lying, racist dumb-fuck Yankee jackass.



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Old 11-15-2013, 07:24 AM   #78
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Romney was not electable because 1) he was a terrible candidate who wasn't willing to go on the attack, and 2) he was not supported by the grass roots/conservative base of the GOP.

Romney's support surged when he got tough against Obama in the 2nd debate; Romney failed to follow through; his consultants advised him to play it safe, don't be overly critical, don't fight back too hard..

GOP voters stayed home; Romney lost. Another horrible candidate picked by the GOP handlers.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:18 AM   #79
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Romney was not electable because 1) he was a terrible candidate who wasn't willing to go on the attack, and 2) he was not supported by the grass roots/conservative base of the GOP.

Romney's support surged when he got tough against Obama in the 2nd debate; Romney failed to follow through; his consultants advised him to play it safe, don't be overly critical, don't fight back too hard..

GOP voters stayed home; Romney lost. Another horrible candidate picked by the GOP handlers.
While I agree with you on your points, I would add that Romney's family was so damn white it hurt. We need a little diversity, white people don't deserve to rule everything forever. Obama is proof a Christian black man can do the job..
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Just pointed out that your stated position reeks of hypocrisy, you no good, hypocritical, lying, racist dumb-fuck Yankee jackass, and that your no good, lying, racist dumb-fuck Yankee ass epitomizes the definition of a "hypocrite", you no good, hypocritical, lying, racist dumb-fuck Yankee jackass.
In addition to being a lying, OCD, tranny fucker, you are also highly repetitive.

This should get rid of you:

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Old 11-15-2013, 10:33 AM   #81
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While I agree with you on your points, I would add that Romney's family was so damn white it hurt. We need a little diversity, white people don't deserve to rule everything forever.
You are a complete idiot. I think you are Marshall masquerading as a liberal in order to discredit them.

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I assume that assessment is not based on the Obamacare roll-out, right?
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:35 AM   #82
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Romney was not electable because 1) he was a terrible candidate who wasn't willing to go on the attack, and 2) he was not supported by the grass roots/conservative base of the GOP.

Romney's support surged when he got tough against Obama in the 2nd debate; Romney failed to follow through; his consultants advised him to play it safe, don't be overly critical, don't fight back too hard..

GOP voters stayed home; Romney lost. Another horrible candidate picked by the GOP handlers.
Yeah, he wasn't electable, but who was your choice? Ron Paul? Rick Perry? The GOP would have lost by an even bigger margin.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:53 AM   #83
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You are a complete idiot. I think you are Marshall masquerading as a liberal in order to discredit them.


I assume that assessment is not based on the Obamacare roll-out, right?
He isn't doing the roll out - that was delegated. He is handling the crises and this will get worked out. Have a little faith.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:11 AM   #84
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He isn't doing the roll out - that was delegated. He is handling the crises and this will get worked out. Have a little faith.
Are you serious?

The clusterfuck roll-out of what is his signature program is not his fault because he DELEGATED it?

Under that logic, Bush isn't responsible for the mess in Iraq, because he didn't do the invasion himself. He delegated it.

I've got news for you. Presidents delegate everything. That does NOT relieve them of fault if the delegated task is screwed up.

You really are an Ozombie aren't you? He can do no wrong, no matter what the evidence.

Why do I get the feeling that if the roll-out had been a success, you wouldn't be saying that he shouldn't get credit because he delegated it.

You don't just worship federal power, you worship politicians, too. Typical progressive mindset - we just need the right elite people to show us benighted rubes the way.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:37 AM   #85
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The QB gets to much credit and to much blame but that is the nature if the beast
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Are you serious?

The clusterfuck roll-out of what is his signature program is not his fault because he DELEGATED it?

Under that logic, Bush isn't responsible for the mess in Iraq, because he didn't do the invasion himself. He delegated it.

I've got news for you. Presidents delegate everything. That does NOT relieve them of fault if the delegated task is screwed up.

You really are an Ozombie aren't you? He can do no wrong, no matter what the evidence.

Why do I get the feeling that if the roll-out had been a success, you wouldn't be saying that he shouldn't get credit because he delegated it.

You don't just worship federal power, you worship politicians, too. Typical progressive mindset - we just need the right elite people to show us benighted rubes the way.
if AHCA pans out like Part D will you be willing to retract your Ozombie rhetoric?
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if AHCA pans out like Part D will you be willing to retract your Ozombie rhetoric?
No. Bert's point was Obamas competency. Which has clearly taken a hit.

Given enough time and money, I'm sure it can "pan out" whatever that means - and even if it takes the next administration to fix it.

If Iraq becomes stable in the next 5-10 years, does that mean Bush was right?

How are you even going to determine if it pans out?

If healthcare ends up more expensive but everyone has it, did it pan out ?

If everybody has it, but medical care is worse, did it pan out?

And who says Part D panned out? It was still an unfunded entitlement
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Obama inherited a mess of huge yearly deficits, high unemployment, and a broken healthcare system, not to mention huge wars. He has vastly lowered the yearly deficits, lowered unemployment, and lowered the number of overseas troops.
Because of a temporary glitch on a stupid website, in spite of all his other accomplishments, you Republicans think you finally have a way to get him after all these years. Once it gets worked out without Republican help, what are you going to say then? So, instead of complaining and gleefully assigning blame, get on board and help us fix it quicker than we will alone. Patriotic Americans will see this helps America by eventually getting everyone better healthcare, which will help us have a better country, a more inclusive country economically, healthwise, etc.
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No. Bert's point was Obamas competency. Which has clearly taken a hit.

Given enough time and money, I'm sure it can "pan out" whatever that means - and even if it takes the next administration to fix it.

If Iraq becomes stable in the next 5-10 years, does that mean Bush was right?

How are you even going to determine if it pans out?

If healthcare ends up more expensive but everyone has it, did it pan out ?

If everybody has it, but medical care is worse, did it pan out?

And who says Part D panned out? It was still an unfunded entitlement
Part D suffered almost the same consequences as AHCA , down to the roll out and the glitches in the website ... 8 years later over 90% of our seniors participate in Plan D.

soooo
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Part D suffered almost the same consequences as AHCA , down to the roll out and the glitches in the website ... 8 years later over 90% of our seniors participate in Plan D.

soooo
And it is underfunded/not funded and is therefore helping drive us to bankruptcy.

Soooooo
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