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Old 10-30-2013, 07:02 PM   #1
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Default The best healthcare in the world?

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/when-d...per-8C11498661

Medical mistakes are now estimated to kill up to 440,000 people in U.S. hospitals each year, making preventable errors the third leading cause of death in America behind heart disease and cancer.
Wrong doses of drugs, undetected tumors, objects left behind in patients’ bodies: Such errors — and many more — are an “everyday occurrence,” experts say.
But eliminating errors has proven difficult, especially in a health care culture where doctors and other providers are reluctant not only to admit their own lapses — but also to report when others mess up as
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:10 PM   #2
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Yeah, go to Mexico, medicine is much better there.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:28 PM   #3
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The conclusion of the study is very telling. Kinda reads like Hillary on Benghazi:

"There was much debate after the IOM report about the accuracy of its estimates. In a sense, it does not matter whether the deaths of 100,000, 200,000 or 400,000 Americans each year are associated with PAEs in hospitals. Any of the estimates demands assertive action on the part of providers, legislators, and people who will one day become patients. Yet, the action and progress on patient safety is frustratingly slow; however, one must hope that the present, evidence-based estimate of 400,000+ deaths per year will foster an outcry for overdue changes and increased vigilance in medical care to address the problem of harm to patients who come to a hospital seeking only to be healed."
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Let them eat yellow cake!
FTFY, you moronic buffoon.
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Medical mistakes are now estimated to kill up to 440,000 people in U.S. hospitals each year, making preventable errors the third leading cause of death in America behind heart disease and cancer.
And so what has Obamacare done to FIX that problem? I mean, he did claim that over 30 MILLION more Americans will now see doctors and hospitals because they have health insurance when they didn't before. Are you expecting a RISE in the number of preventable deaths?
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And so what has Obamacare done to FIX that problem? I mean, he did claim that over 30 MILLION more Americans will now see doctors and hospitals because they have health insurance when they didn't before. Are you expecting a RISE in the number of preventable deaths?
Did I say Obamacare would address that problem. I guess my point might have been is that we just might be defending a myth.
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Let them eat yellow cake!


Maybe they will share it with our Obamacare cry babies!
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It's really not a problem. We're moving toward a third world health system anyway, SO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!?
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:03 PM   #9
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Third world? Who has a first-world health care system you whiny bitch?
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We used to, DOTY Assup. But you didn't like it. So now we are adopting what you wanted. Lower quality health care for everyone. Thanks, DOTY Assup!
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The United States has the #1 healthcare in the world.

When presidents of countries need major surgeries most come to the USA!


Most of these studies have signicant biases (flaws) which negate the findings.


The key is to understand how studies are made and which biases are associated with them
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:48 PM   #12
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We used to, DOTY Assup. But you didn't like it. So now we are adopting what you wanted. Lower quality health care for everyone. Thanks, DOTY Assup!
answer the question you whiny bitch!
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:41 AM   #13
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Well if you go back Obama did say that his program would help stop these stories. Everything would digitized and so nothing could slip by. Zero mistakes, low drag, Obama to the rescue. Right......
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And so what has Obamacare done to FIX that problem? I mean, he did claim that over 30 MILLION more Americans will now see doctors and hospitals because they have health insurance when they didn't before. Are you expecting a RISE in the number of preventable deaths?
Obamacare only claims to make Healthcare more affordable to those who originally couldn't afford it. The quality of Health Care will remain the same. Obamacare can't change the mishaps that occur in the Medical Field. There will still be Malpractice Law Suits, Misdiagnoses, and improperly prescribed medications. Doctors will see more patients which means they will spend less time with them to get to the next. Those that are young and other wise healthy will only see the Doctor on occasion, those that have serious or potentially serious Health Problems will pay for optimum treatment and those that are terminally ill will die on schedule.
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:14 AM   #15
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The United States has the #1 healthcare in the world.

When presidents of countries need major surgeries most come to the USA!


Most of these studies have signicant biases (flaws) which negate the findings.


The key is to understand how studies are made and which biases are associated with them
You are making a good point Kriggins. Our health care is excellent and Obama just wants everyone to benefit from it.
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