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Old 09-13-2013, 07:41 AM   #16
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I call bullshit! If they were "very picky," they sure as hell wouldn't be taking you.


US taxpayers spend a good deal of money to get JL admitted. They didn't want him either.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:55 AM   #17
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US taxpayers spend a good deal of money to get JL admitted. They didn't want him either.
As long as the US keeps admitting immigrants with no money from third world shitholes, who will continue to remake the US into the image of their home countries, I'll bet many more people will decide to leave.
Have any of you people ever gone to Caribbean countries on a cruise? Do you want the US to look like that? Keep bringing in those people who lived in mud huts, and you will import that here. Hopefully, next door to your house so you can truly understand how you fucked up.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:53 AM   #18
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Obama is a fool; his foreign policy seems to be guided by the philosophy of Shimon Peres - another Nobel Peace Prize winner for the Oslo Accords, which didn't work out too well for Israel.
“In order to make peace, you have to close your eyes. You cannot make love or peace with open eyes.”
That kind of thinking doesn't work with players like Assad and Putin - it leads to neutered American influence and endangers our citizens.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:14 AM   #19
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Biggest thing neutering the US is the constant attacks from the right. The world can see how divided we are.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:31 AM   #20
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'[T]he Odumbo Administration’s problem: there have been too many “rhetorical exercises,” too many loose pronouncements of American intent without having game-planned the consequences. This persistent problem—remember Odumbo’s needless and dangerous assertion that his policy wasn’t the “containment” of the Iranian nuclear program—has metastasized into a flurry of malarkey about Syria. It’s been two years since he said, “Assad must step aside.” He announced the “red line” and “the world’s red line.” And now, “We can stop children from being gassed.” The Chinese believe that the strongest person in the room says the least. The President is the strongest person, militarily, in the world. He does not have to broadcast his intentions. He should convey them privately, wait for a response, then take action, or not. He should do what the Israelis did when they took out the Syrian nuclear reactor: they did it, without advance bluster, and didn’t even claim credit for it afterward. The wolf doesn’t have to cry wolf, nor should the American eagle. We must stand for restrained moral power, power that is absolutely lethal and purposeful when it is unleashed, but never unleashed wantonly, without a precise plan or purpose.

'The President...is persisting in his public threats of military action because American credibility—and, more precisely, his credibility—really is at stake. But playing the “American credibility” card is a foolish and extremely dangerous game. In my lifetime, more lives, including American lives, have been lost in the pursuit of American credibility than by any legitimate military factor. It was what led Lyndon Johnson to double down in Vietnam. It was what helped propel George W. Bush into pulling the trigger in Iraq, even after it was clear that most of the world and, quietly, the American military thought it would be a disastrous exercise. It was what led Odumbo deeper into Afghanistan. Make no mistake, Odumbo has already lost credibility in the world, given his performance of the past few weeks. But American credibility is easily resurrected, given our overwhelming strength, by prudent action the next time a crisis erupts, a clear strategic vision and a rock-steady hand on the wheel. It was resurrected by Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. The sad thing is that Odumbo had been rebuilding our international stature after George W. Bush’s unilateral thrashing about. He has now damaged his ability to get his way with the Chinese, the Iranians and even the Israelis.

'That may never come back—and there were real opportunities to make some progress, especially with Iran, where the ascension of a nonprovocative President, Hassan Rouhani, and a reform-minded Foreign Minister in Mohammed Javad Zarif had opened the possibility of real progress in the nuclear talks and maybe even in other areas, like Afghanistan. The question now is whether Odumbo’s inability to make his military threat in Syria real—and the American people’s clear distaste for more military action—will empower the hard-liners in the Revolutionary Guards Corps to give no quarter in the negotiations. The Chinese, who have been covetous of the South China Sea oil fields, may not be as restrained as they have been in the past. The Japanese may feel the need to revive their military, or even go nuclear, now that the promise of American protection seems less reliable. The consequences of Odumbo’s amateur display ripple out across the world....

'[Odumbo] has done himself, and the nation, great and unnecessary harm. The road back to credibility and respect will be extremely difficult.'

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/11...#ixzz2emZUkjNK
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:05 AM   #22
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The problem with Obama's foreign policy is that he has no guiding doctrine; other than he despises American colonialism (whatever the fuck that means).

He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism and therefore he can't defend America from the kinds of attacks thrown at us - like Putin's op ed piece yesterday.

More importantly he can't rally Americans behind him.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:19 PM   #23
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Biggest thing neutering the US is the constant attacks from the right. The world can see how divided we are.
If there were a conservative Republican in the White House, the statement would be, "the biggest thing neutering the US is the constant attacks from the left".
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:11 PM   #24
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That's one way of looking at it Jackie.

You could also blame it on the MSM. After all, TV reporters are really responsible for our nation's lack of potency.
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If there were a conservative Republican in the White House, the statement would be, "the biggest thing neutering the US is the constant attacks from the left".

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Old 09-13-2013, 10:38 PM   #26
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Like Burge said, Putin is doing donuts in Obama's front lawn...
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Steyn said. http://m.nationalreview.com/article/...ism-mark-steyn
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Stern is brilliant! Thanks.
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Dumb asses! The right wing, conservatives, Tea Partiers, call what you will are the only ones protecting this country now and for the last 20 years.

Liberals are wayyyyyyyy to smart to join the military. They would rather hang around dictators and protect them from smart bombs and commandos. Liberals never have a good word to say about this country, they ditto everything that Putin wrote. Liberals taunt generals, insult the wounded, disrepect the dead, and mock everything this country stands for.
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