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06-26-2013, 08:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 23, 2011
Location: Syracuse
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How do you ask?
Quick question, and please don't burn me at the stake for asking.
I recently had my first experience last week, and it wasn't was I was expecting or hoping for. I know asking certain things are taboo.
But how and when do you ask what is on the "menu" without scaring the VP off?
Or when you are with a good provider and they say X$ for their time, can you assume what you have seen in other reviews goes? or should i expect upsell? i understand when you get a regular provider that you see, you have that knowledge. but when you see someone for the first time you do't.
UGH.. I just want to have fun lol!!!
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06-26-2013, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Dec 24, 2010
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Reviews are pretty good
Look for thing like YMMV etc..
Some provers will do different things with different people.
Sometimes you have to just buy til you find a good one.
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06-26-2013, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 11, 2013
Location: Kansas City
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I would ask the provider if she is on P411.
Then if she's not, encourage her to join. There's no way to guarantee a good time, but P411 is free for her and will provide you answers to many of the questions you probably have.
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06-26-2013, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
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I never ask about services. If I see the provider putting a raincoat on me I ask "can we skip the cover" and agree with their response. Never do I ask about the menu. It will come clear as you proceed through the meeting.
You can really be smart about it and never do anything that would freak the provider out or get you into trouble if your convo is being overheard.
Why ask? Are you hoping to try to hedge your bets and know everything you're going to get before it happens? I never go that route. If the provider is hot, I'm already 1/2 way to having a good time.
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06-26-2013, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Jun 3, 2010
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Good providers don't "upsell" unless you add on things like Greek, special outfits she has to pack or buy, a role play to memorize or dress for, cof, bondage, and things along those lines. Pretty much things going above and beyond a normal gfe date.
Of course everything is ymmv and all but regular stuff is included in her donation towards her time/room/travel expenses.
Heads up if you are seeking things of the darker side (bondage, roleplay, you dressing up, fetishes...) Don't just drop that on her, let her know ahead of time. Surprises like wine or gift cards are great but surprises like a bag full of WTF and a side of are you serious are bad.
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06-27-2013, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Feb 8, 2010
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Originally Posted by Ozone1651
Quick question, and please don't burn me at the stake for asking.
I recently had my first experience last week, and it wasn't was I was expecting or hoping for. I know asking certain things are taboo.
But how and when do you ask what is on the "menu" without scaring the VP off?
Or when you are with a good provider and they say X$ for their time, can you assume what you have seen in other reviews goes? or should i expect upsell? i understand when you get a regular provider that you see, you have that knowledge. but when you see someone for the first time you do't.
UGH.. I just want to have fun lol!!!
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Don't worry, we here at the Upstate forum don't burn at the stake. We torture daily. lol
I would read the reviews and read the reviews some more. Then read the reviews some more. :-) If you have the "private access" where it tells the rest of the story, I think you will get a better feel for what the woman is really like, and how the experience really was. It might be your best bet to pay for a short time and do some more detailed research.
Please, first off, <-----for me do not refer to it as a menu in person. When you say Menu I think Ranch.
I think part of a decision during the first part of a call would be 1. What you asked about, and 2. How I screened you in. If I screened you in through an absolutely Golden To Me reference, you could ask away. If I screened you in via your office and I know without a doubt that it is you on the phone, then you could ask away, as well.
If you were a bartender at a restaurant, with a review of a popular lady that I do not know well and I screened you in via your work, I might have some doubts. I mean, it's all good. I screened you in, etc. (I might go the extra mile and pay for a work verification. At that point you could ask away. OH I'm getting off topic here.) So at any rate, if you asked me questions at the beginning of our meet I would definitely ask you to leave. I would already be nervous because even though I screened you in and all is good, I am still freaking out inside saying to myself to be careful. You might be dangerous. You could hurt me, etc "Too much too fast get him out now, do a safety check, etc etc etc" I would feel the unsafe feeling with just the office work screening, as well, but I would allow the questions.
If you asked me something half way through I might be a little receptive to it. MAYBE. If you asked me 3/4 of the way through I would be more receptive to the question.
Like I said, if you have the absolute Golden screening (to me,) you could ask anything at anytime.
As far as upselling is concerned, I would go with what I read at the reviews. ALSO,some ladies do do different things at different times. So if I were you I would simply bring a tip in a separate envelope. Just in case you decided to tip on "additional" performance that is not in every review that provider has.
Just my 2 cents.
:-)
Happy hobbying!!!
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06-27-2013, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 23, 2009
Location: niagara falls
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you have to ask the girl upfront before the session starts whats on the menu that way you can decide if you want to see her
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06-27-2013, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 10, 2011
Location: Rochester
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The best way to find what you're looking for is to look at reviews. That way you see what's actually on the menu and how the provider interacts with the customer. Many providers won't want to discuss details over the phone.
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06-27-2013, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: Sep 10, 2012
Location: buff southtowns
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read, read, read the reviews. it is the primary value of this site for newbies. AND, you might ask her what is NOT available.
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06-27-2013, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 7, 2012
Location: rochester ny
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If ur seeing someone not reviewed, sort of accept that first date is partially to feel each other out. The menu is not discussed and let things go where they will. I feel out the offerings and menu in the discussion with the provider after a comfort level is established.
Concerning reviews, always understand there maybe some YMMV, especially for the first date. The provider is feeling you out as a client. I am sure they have ways to get to know about us ahead of time, but they may be uneasy as well, even if they don't show it.
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06-27-2013, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Feb 28, 2013
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I have found that most providers will simple tell when you start doing something they do not like. I had one girl sit straight up in the middle giving oral and tell me NO CIM! I said ok it's your show. A short while later she was giving my anus a tongue bath! Can you say WTF?
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06-27-2013, 10:29 PM
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Join Date: Aug 28, 2012
Location: Niagara
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you have to ask the girl upfront before the session starts whats on the menu that way you can decide if you want to see her
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No better viewpoint than the Yankster's. Reviews are great, but for every thread like this there's a thread claiming how worthless reviews are. Believe half of what you see, none of what you hear. Thus reviews are worthless. Besides, if you are in this game, sooner or later you're going to be on your own with no information, even if your a cautious pansy that only goes for a sure thing.
If you're sure she's not a cop, ask what to expect. Asking what she doesn't do, what her rules or boundaries are is a great approach, because that is easier to answer. If she says, no blood, feces or bondage, things look good. If she says, "Trust me baby, you'll have fun," stay on guard.
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read, read, read the reviews. it is the primary value of this site for newbies. AND, you might ask her what is NOT available.
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06-28-2013, 02:57 AM
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Join Date: Dec 12, 2009
Location: near Lake Ontario
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just take the risk and do it to her. the screaming at you review could be fun
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06-28-2013, 06:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 5, 2010
Location: New York State (of mindless)
Posts: 1,234
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When reviews for first meets show some BBBJ and some CBJ, I usually think its the dudes fault. You don't have to look like Brad Pitt, I sure don't, but arriving clean (no dingleberries or head cheese) helps open the menu. The YMMV equation can be moved to your favor if you show up having changed your undies more than once per week. It also helps to shower daily.
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