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Old 06-16-2013, 03:44 PM   #1
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Default How apt would you be to change? Ha! pun intended!!

This is not new news, and has been discussed a few times over the last few years, but it has surfaced again and caught my attention. A few good points are made as to why this would be a smart thing to do, but what the Hell would it do the the stripper business?!?!

WASHINGTON (AP) — American consumers have shown about as much appetite for the $1 coin as kids do their spinach. They may not know what's best for them either. Congressional auditors say doing away with dollar bills entirely and replacing them with dollar coins could save taxpayers some $4.4 billion over the next 30 years.
Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.
The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.
The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.
The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.
At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:
—Moving to less expensive combinations of metals like steel, aluminum and zinc.
—Gradually taking dollar bills out the economy and replacing them with coins.
The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.
But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.
"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.
Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.
"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."
Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.
That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.
Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.
"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"
"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.
Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.
Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.
The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.
Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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well unless they take paper dollars out of circulation then no one will use them,
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It is my understanding that is the plan....



House Subcommittee Hearing discusses phasing out the Dollar Bill in favor of Dollar Coins
by COLONEL on NOVEMBER 30, 2012

“Congressional auditors say doing away with dollar bills entirely and replacing them with dollar coins could save taxpayers some $4.4 billion over… 30 years.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:43 PM   #4
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Switch to Bitcoins!
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:01 PM   #5
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I don't carry change...to the point that I either drop it on the ground, leave it at the counter, or tell the seller to keep it...
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I don't spend coins either. However, I save it. I have a jar at home that I throw my coins in at the end of the day. WU, I am thinking that at a dollar a coin, you might think twice about just tossing it on the ground or leaving it on the counter.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:38 PM   #7
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This would ruin by Strip Club talent searches. Try sticking a coin in a g-string. That would not go over well at all.

Seriously this comes up every few years and gets rejected. I am sure keeping $1 coins in circulation would keep costs down for the Mint but we are all creatures of habit.
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:23 PM   #8
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Plastic or electronic only here. Any change or bills I end up with I donate to the poor folk at the corners and interchanges. Money has no real value. It's all trust...
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Plastic or electronic only here. Any change or bills I end up with I donate to the poor folk at the corners and interchanges. Money has no real value. It's all trust...
Exactly, and credit is nothing more than paperwork.

This type of change isn't the kind that would get my attention.
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Wouldn't change the stripper industry at all. Some clubs already have what they call "Dancer Dollars". All they would have to do is install Machines like you find at casinos and even game rooms. Stick in your larger bills and receive back exchangeable "Dancer Dollars" for tipping. At the end of the night, almost every dancer trades in their ones for larger bills anyway so there really wouldn't be much difference.
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I would. People don't give a damn about change now because of the perception that it has no value. It's only a couple of cents. Throw some one and two dollar coins in there and that will change quickly. When I was stationed in Germany, I'd drop my change in a jar and let it accumulate. It wasn't too long before I'd have 40-50 euros and could go have a night out wih nothing but my change.

As for the strip club comment, it's a non-factor. In fact I think it would actually work out in the clubs favor. They'd just print their own funny money like they do in Europe, only good in the club.
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You can't play liar's poker with coins
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I would. People don't give a damn about change now because of the perception that it has no value. It's only a couple of cents. Throw some one and two dollar coins in there and that will change quickly. When I was stationed in Germany, I'd drop my change in a jar and let it accumulate. It wasn't too long before I'd have 40-50 euros and could go have a night out wih nothing but my change.
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This is exactly what I do. You would be amazed how quickly a few cents a day add up to a nice little chunk.

I had no idea about the machines in the club... I need to get out more I guess...
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Plastic or electronic only here. Any change or bills I end up with I donate to the poor folk at the corners and interchanges. Money has no real value. It's all trust...
Really, nothing has any static inherent value. "Value" is only what other people are willing to give you for your item.
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I'd still throw it on the ground...
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