first of all, one can ask why.
or one can question why.
[and one just might ask the question "why ask why? drink bud dry!" :^)]
generally,
the former seeks information. ["i'll ask him if it's snowing outside"]
the latter seeks understanding. ["i'll question him why he wore bell-bottoms to a black tie affair."]
but sometimes, the latter seeks justification or attempts to discredit [which often means a form of judgement].
i'm not sure whether you are just asking, seeking understanding, or seeking justification.
i'm gonna guess but will not bet that you are doing either of the later two since you shifted from using "ask" to using "question".
regaedless, i'd like to know what you would do if any provider gave you an answer as to why she doesnt see african americans or guys under 30 or guys older than 50 or peg-legs or meat eaters or .....
would you just say "ok, later" or would you attempt to debate with her about her reasons for her answer?
why ask the question??
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Now we are talking about "The "recent" one... ". ... Please do not ask me why.
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perhaps you should have taken your own advice.
and yes, i agree that i am talking your words out of context.
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Originally Posted by bigryan222
Not to be a dick, but when you provide a service to some people, but not others you will be asked to justify it. You provide a different, more personal service so I understand not seeing those you are not comfortable seeing, but you will be asked about it.
And to be blunt, asking those who are seeking a service justification is nothing like asking justification for refusing service. I truly believe you should not see anyone you don't want to see, but refusing service because of race will get you questioned. I doubt it affects your business much, but it is fair to question it.
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then dont be a blunt dick about it, period!!!
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Originally Posted by bigryan222
... But, it is 100% fair to question it. If I were a provider I would not answer the question, but implying that there is something wrong with asking the question seems silly to me.
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Honestly, I don't know why any girl would answer it because there is no answer that will please everyone or even anyone, but that doesn't mean it is not a fair question.
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Originally Posted by bigryan222
I would guess you didn't read my last post. In my opinion it was a poor idea to post this thread for the same reasons you are recommending girls not respond to it in the future. That doesn't change the fact that is a fair question.
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Originally Posted by bigryan222
I would probably say it is a fair question and that I think it is a poor idea on your part to answer it. .. My point I everyone has the right to question being rejected service for any reason. Implying that you shouldn't be questioned is my problem.
It is one of the many complex issues out there where answering the question does more harm than good, yet it is a very legit question.
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... And just because I think it is smart for girls not to answer the question, doesnt mean that it is not a valid question no matter how many times it is asked. ...
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Originally Posted by bigryan222
When being told you will not be provided a service because of your race, that is a lot closer to a legit complaint than someone getting canned for sucking at their job and saying it is because of their race.
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I really have two real points in this thread considering I actually dont care if the girls I see have limits on race, gender, age, or whatever.
1.) Guys have every right to question not being provided a service because of their race. Girls should be smart enough not to answer the questions though because it will go away if they are polite as far as this forum goes and they should report guys that are dicks in a private manner.
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so,
- first of all, you say people will be asked to justify their position. [which i think is horse dookey cos a) they dont have to be asked and b) no one has to justify their position in this sub-culture, except in matters of physical and social safety]
- then, it's 100% fair to question. [which i think is horse dookey again cos no one has to justify their position]
- then, it's "silly" for saying it's wrong to ask such a question. [maybe, tho both are judging the other person's motives or decisions]
- then, it's back to being a fair question. and again...
- then, it's "everyone has the right to question being rejected service..." [which i just think is horse dookey]
- then, it's a legit question. [by whose standards?]
- then, it's a valid question. [valid according to what?]
- then, it's comparing the question to an issue of getting fired [that's a big stretch].
- then, it's "Guys have every right to question not being provided a service..." [ditto from "right to question" above]
in my experience, asking and/or stating your position over and over and over again [10 times or so] might get you labeled a obstinate dick.
it's happened to me several times [outside this sub-culture] until i learned how and when to ask questions.
sure it's a question,
but that is all it is - a question.
it's not a fair question, it's not always right to ask it, it's not everyone's right to ask it, it's not legit, it's not valid.
it's just a question!!
and unless you're ruling the providing/companion sub-culture, much less the world,
you dont get to tell anyone else that it's any of those adjectives.
now, if this were a compact or contract being negotiated or carried out,
or if this were a civil rights issue,
or if you were one of the judges on a court, court of appeals, or the supreme court deciding this case,
the kind of question it is might be different.
but it isnt any of those situations.
so, like i commented on your first quoted post....
perhaps you should have taken your own advice.
