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Old 04-29-2013, 10:03 PM   #31
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There is a reason it is called the oldest profession. Neither demand nor supply shall cease. If anything, our perspective is skewed by the financial nuances of the age, and new technology.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:51 AM   #32
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From a newbie's perspective, I can tell you that it's difficult for a newbie to get in to the hobby. .
It depends on what you're going after. If it's VP's then that can be tricky since many of them require references. When I was a newbie I didn't usually have a problem hooking up with gals from BP.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:01 AM   #33
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Not many providers are going to admit to a downturn in business.

I know some of the BP girls are fighting with each other over clients.

One of the duos I had are no longer talking to each other.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:05 AM   #34
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Not many providers are going to admit to a downturn in business.

I know some of the BP girls are fighting with each other over clients.

One of the duos I had are no longer talking to each other.
If biz is down It's down. I have a feeling providers that are established and well reviewed are doing ok. Therfore, there may not be a lot of ladies who post on this site (hopefully) having a huge loss.

It is definitely competitive with the bp scene. The ones losing biz probably deserve it at times. I was reading a terrible review about a couple of girls working together in the Niagara region, and to my surprise the number listed for the two young ladies happen to be a number that has contacted me to set up a nsnc appointment

I guess, one can expect that from sps with pt problems.
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True, I would hate to be new right now.
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I guess, one can expect that from sps with pt problems.
What's depressing is it seems a lot of new girls have pt problems.
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What's depressing is it seems a lot of new girls have pt problems.
That is probably why they are in the hobby to begin with.
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What's depressing is it seems a lot of new girls have pt problems.
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That is probably why they are in the hobby to begin with.
You know.. I worked for a few years in London before coming to the Niagara area..and..

Ughhh.. deep deep sigh..

I was asked maybe once in London if I "party"....I had to ask what it meant lol

In this area, I have asked gents to leave for showing up a mess, or they assume and get out pt...

So many, telling me border towns are unique like that????? And it seems to go both ways..gents and sps...why would a border town be worse? Is that what attracts so many new faces ..

Low ecconomy seems to promote more extra curricular activities rather then less...don't know..
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Re a few Frankie comments: if a few Canadians say border towns have more PT use, they're the sort that think Americans cause all problems.

Re your NCNS show from another provider, that could just be cutthroat business. There are services that will kill competitor's BP ads for a fee. Lack of integrity is a key facet of marketing.

I think research would show lots of vices boon when the economy is down. When its up, the bankers try to get laid with cars and other material things.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:03 AM   #40
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Border towns? IDK Niagara and Windsor have a lot in common. Both are in economically depressed areas; Southern Ontario is the most depressed area in the province. Both are next to dying rust belt American cities. Both have played the casino card to jump start their economies. You bring in gambling you attract more hookers. For every hooker there seems to be a worthless boyfriend pt dealer. Face it, there are just not enough jobs to go around. There are 3 high schools in walking distance of Lundy's Lane, you think these kids don't see who has money and who works at Mickey D's? They go straight from graduation, if they make it that far, to the strip clubs, the agencies, BP scammers and legit, or pimping and dealing.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:18 AM   #41
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i have read all the posts and to me the biggest thing is LE and the no one has money any way they say the stock market is up but 95% of the money has went to 1% of the people prices go up and pay goes down people have to eat plain and simple
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:57 AM   #42
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I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone who responded to the Poll before I forget. The consensus based upon the results so far is that any current downturn (actual or perceived) is due to a reduced amount of disposable income and increased competition for the available client base. Both of these conditions can be traced back to local Economic factors (Job losses, Lower paying Jobs, high Tax bills, etc.). Hopefully now that Tax season is over things will pickup for the Provider's that were experiancing a "slump" in Business.
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Link showing New York State rating.

http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst...-business-2013
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The 10 worst states all happen to be blue states. Most of the 10 best are red states.
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The 10 worst states all happen to be blue states. Most of the 10 best are red states.
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