No thought about this until now...

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Uh, isn't that EXACTLY Obama's policy?

you need some new cartoons grandma your senility is showing.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

What spin, CBJ7? You start by agreeing, then you traipse off into a fictional argument of your own devise.

my bad ... I'll give you every opportunity to prove me wrong

[Jackie S]

Won't the survivor be prosecuted under the same laws that Timothy McVea was prosecutede under. That ended quite well.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Won't the survivor be prosecuted under the same laws that Timothy McVea was prosecutede under. That ended quite well.

apparently he will now. I suspect the end result will be right in line with McVea

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Won't the survivor be prosecuted under the same laws that Timothy McVea was prosecutede under. That ended quite well.

Not exactly, unlike caring, progressive, informed states like Oklahoma, backwater, ill-informed Massachusetts of course has no death penalty. As of now the federal government still remains somewhat enlightened but we have Holder deciding what penalty to seek

[Old Dingus]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

Let me ask you one thing. If during the Civil Rights era the state Governors had come up with the idea of "enemy combatant" and started denying the protections of the Constitution when then?

Well, let's think back.

President prolly would have sent in the National Guard.

Oh wait. That IS what happened.

Old Dingus

[CJ7]

consecutive life sentences for every person killed would be far more devastating for a 19 year old to deal with than killing him

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

Let me ask you one thing. If during the Civil Rights era the state Governors had come up with the idea of "enemy combatant" and started denying the protections of the Constitution when then?

I'm not following.

Denied protections to whom? Marchers? Lunch-counter protesters? Or the Klansmen that attacked them?

[Old Dingus]

Originally Posted by CJ7

consecutive life sentences for every person killed would be far more devastating for a 19 year old to deal with than killing him

And take away his I-Pod.

Old Dingus

[CJ7]

when someone goes to prison with charges of that nature, the prison system automatically puts them in Ad Seg for their own protection, being put in general population isn't an option ... no tv, no radio, no contact with anything but a concrete floor, three walls, a crapper , a sink and a door with a 12" square glass to see out of for the next 50-60-70 years ...cant even begin to imagine how much that would fuck with your head, or how long you'd last

[Old Dingus]

That was an attempt at humor. I guess I will have to try harder.

Old Dingus

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Not exactly, unlike caring, progressive, informed states like Oklahoma, backwater, ill-informed Massachusetts of course has no death penalty. As of now the federal government still remains somewhat enlightened but we have Holder deciding what penalty to seek

Know the facts?

It doesn't look like it.

Once again, you never gave it a thought.

Timothy McVea was prosecuted under Federal law. Which has a death penalty.


"Terrorism cases brought over the past 20 years show there are a number of federal statutes that can be applied, including conspiracy to use or actual use of a weapon of mass destruction, which is punishable by death. Today, the Justice Department chose that very law to charge Dzhokar Tsarnaev in the attack."

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-death-penalty

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

Let me ask you one thing. If during the Civil Rights era the state Governors had come up with the idea of "enemy combatant" and started denying the protections of the Constitution when then?

June 11, 1963. Standing in a doorway, Alabama Gov. George Wallace blocks the enrollment of Vivian Malone and James Hood as the first African American students at the University of Alabama. Wallace steps aside only after President John F. Kennedy mobilizes National Guard troops to the scene.

On the same day as the standoff in Alabama, JFK delivers an address asking Congress to enact legislation protecting the right of all Americans to be served in facilities that are open to the public. "This seems to me to be an elementary right," he says. The Civil Rights Act became law in 1964.

[JD Barleycorn]

This is not a question of the death penalty or federal prosecution; this is a case of getting information. Face it, this guy is toast. He's done whether he lives or dies but we need to know who, what, when, where, and how. Giving him Miranda rights as a criminal says he has to say nothing, as an enemy combatant we can encourage him to talk.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Know the facts?

It doesn't look like it.

Once again, you never gave it a thought.

Timothy McVea was prosecuted under Federal law. Which has a death penalty.


http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-death-penalty

Ever consider a remedial reading and comprehension course?
I know the Feds prosecuted mcvea
I said the Feds have that charge available