Whats up with the NBM

[texasfeet]

I saw a BP chick a while back who at times posted NBA and sometimes she didn't. While setting an appointment with her i informed her (like i do with all) my race and she said no problem. We hooked up, and there was no problems. In my own humble opinion, I think very few of these girls are true racist. Most of the girls are very young and the people they hang with are young and with this generation "gangsta" is in. And while they may be cool hanging and partying with them on their own time, they've had enough dealings with them on a professional level to realize they can be a pain in the ass and potentionally hazardous. To avoid this they just inact a blanket NBA policy to avoid the headaches. In reality however 90% of those same girls probably wouldn;t have a problem with a respectful, non gangster black.

[newbieguy]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

Absolutely. Sex is still an intimate union between two (Or more) people whether it be with total strangers or familiar lovers.
To classify it as just another service no different than serving food or selling cars is unrealistic.
Completely surrendering one's body and possibly a little piece of soul to every client in doing so does stand in a category of it's own.
One is entitled to be picky or "Discriminating" regarding who they share this intimacy with.

I feel that any provider who will fuck anything or anyone breathing with two legs has lost all sense of self. I applaud those
willing to put personal principles before cash.

I would like to think that this is true for all providers, but IMO, it is not. One of the main things I look for is IOP. And those ladies who can really provide IOP are either exceptional actresses or, at some level, are intimately surrendering themselves to this 'stranger'. Those ladies are the ones that fit your description. But there are a % of ladies who treat the hobby like slinging burgers, bagging groceries or making telemarketing phone calls. When you hear about the ladies who take back to back calls with the babywipe cleanups in between, those taking phone calls during sessions, those watching tv or staring at the wall, etc. I have to believe that for some, this is a means for money and the quicker they can get us through their 'drive through', the quicker they can move on with there money.

Ultimately, I think that some ladies are racist, some have personal preferences (as I or anyone else does), some have fears, and some have pressures or influences from others. Unfortunately, it is generally targeted at one race.

So some interesting questions: What would you guess the ethnicity breakdown is here on eccie? Second, just for the sake of conversation, if the tables were turned and some providers stated a NWA policy, how much business do you realistically think they would receive. NBA satisfies whatever reason the lady may have while, IMO, not impacting her business to any significant level.

[lyfej]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

I feel that any provider who will fuck anything or anyone breathing with two legs has lost all sense of self. I applaud those
willing to put personal principles before cash.

So you are implying that fucking a Black man is akin to fucking anything with two legs? How about the provider that fucks the 400 pound obese white guy, that under normal conditions, no one outside the hobby world is willing to fuck?

I mean come on.. To imply that fucking a black man is like fucking anything with two legs is a racists comment on its own.

[buck14pt]

Why do you have to label people a racist if they choose to be selective? They have that choice. I do no see any girls over 5'7" or girls that look overweight. There are latinas that prefer not to see a cauc, so what. Labeling people in a demeaning way just so they will change their preferences is typical liberal and right wing manipulation.

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by lyfej

So you are implying that fucking a Black man is akin to fucking anything with two legs? How about the provider that fucks the 400 pound obese white guy, that under normal conditions, no one outside the hobby world is willing to fuck?

I mean come on.. To imply that fucking a black man is like fucking anything with two legs is a racists comment on its own.

I don't think there is any rational way to conclude that this particular statement is labeling black men "anything with two legs". You struck me as intelligent.

I almost feel embarrassed for you having to explain this but here goes.

Any provider willing to fuck any and all men with complete disregard to her own personal principles and turnoffs sacrifices her sense of self.

If she would rather fuck a 400lb obese non-black man then fuck even a fit black than who are you or I to pass judgment? Who are we to ask why? It's her fucking business. Simply find one of many AA friendly providers instead of worrying about those who want nothing to do with you.

[dhugo]

There are many black female providers who do not see black men. Does this mean they're racist against their own race? Does it mean they hate black people? If you think the answer is yes, then you don't know what racism means. Some women might not be attracted to black men, but from the women I've talked to, they just don't like dealing with pimps and a black man under 30 has a much higher probability of being one than say, a white man in his 40s.

It really sucks when people make generalizations about you that aren't true, just because they had bad experiences with someone like you, but every single person on here does that. People get scammed by backpage providers so they stop going to backpage. People get pulled over by LE on certain streets so they avoid those streets. Provider has a bad experience somewhere (wilco, for example) and they stop doing outcalls there. I live in Williamson county, and a lot of providers won't come here because of the bad reputation of LE here. Is that fair? Not really. But I'm not going to say that those providers are bad people because they choose not to come here. It sucks but I don't think it's fair to call providers racist if they don't want to see black men.

[lyfej]

We all can opine as to why. This post was started as a general question. The responses prove there is a degree of polarization on this topic... There are certainly more subjective responses than objective ones. We certainly don't not live in a post racial America... so it is with the hobby.

Good dialogue.

Peace

[playingnthedark]

How is it that all these men have the answer to, " why no black men " policy? I mean do you squat when you pee and post an ad in the provider section. Wtf! What makes you so sure it's NOT racially motivated.

Unless a provider with a NBM/NBA policy respond to this thread. None of us will know what "her" reason/s are.

But, thank you men. At least we know why you have one. Smfh again.

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by playingnthedark

What makes you so sure it's NOT racially motivated.

Unless a provider with a NBM/NBA policy respond to this thread. None of us will know what "her" reason/s are.

Correct and since there is no way to generalize either way it is ridiculous to condemn or label those who have a NBA policy. Some probably are racially motivated yet that does not make all who have a NBA policy racists and what does it matter?

Point being since it is an issue of being discriminating with opening one's own body versus restaurant discrimination it is every provider's right to do so without being labeled.

Another point is why would any AA even care why or want to have anything to do with any provider who has a NBA policy? It's not as if there aren't plenty of providers left to call.

[newbieguy]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

....Another point is why would any AA even care why or want to have anything to do with any provider who has a NBA policy? It's not as if there aren't plenty of providers left to call.

You are right Cody, it doesn't matter. Sure, it sux sometimes when you come across a lady that is visually attractive. You read her reviews, read through her showcase, and then at the very end of it, find out that she has a NBA policy. But you move on to the next one. And you are correct, there are plenty of other providers. It just tends to make you wonder why. I think it's human nature to question something, but these threads are beating a dead horse and no one will every know for each instance, why. Too bad none of the providers are following this thread or wish to contribute. Even then, it wouldn't change much. ;-)

One last point though: I always state my ethnicity up front just to prevent an unwelcome situation and inevitably a bad session. But I must admit that there are times when I've contacted a NBA provider (one who sometimes post it and sometimes not) just to see if there's a session to be had. Again, I state my ethnicity, so no secrets, but it could end up with a positive. Just like other fetishes that I'm into, where it's taboo and not all ladies are into them, sometimes I view the situation as another fetish. Of course, when I get no response, I don't cry, get mad, or stir up a fuss. But those few times where it worked out, it feels just as nice as finding that lady who fulfills that fetish or amplifies the IOP. Just another opinion from the hobbiest side!

[Little Monster]

Originally Posted by playingnthedark

How is it that all these men have the answer to, " why no black men " policy? I mean do you squat when you pee and post an ad in the provider section. Wtf! What makes you so sure it's NOT racially motivated.

Unless a provider with a NBM/NBA policy respond to this thread. None of us will know what "her" reason/s are.

But, thank you men. At least we know why you have one. Smfh again.

I knew i wasn't imagining things, I knew there was a prior NBA thread where a few of the NBA providers gave their reasons, and just as expected their answers were not accepted

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...&highlight=nba

These providers aren't stupid they know the same thing will happen in this thread, the only answer that's gonna be accepted is that they're racist. the dominant issue (at least with the providers that responded to this thread) appears to be Security, post #91 sounds like both security and preference to me, but that's just me....

[davidsmith0123]

Just think...if prostitution were legalized would the anti-discrimination laws apply? Then what happens to those with the nba policy?