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03-17-2013, 10:22 AM
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Account Disabled
Join Date: Aug 8, 2011
Location: Austin
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Not to be funny but most fast food places will hire do to the face they get a tax credit for hiring employee with criminal backgrounds
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03-17-2013, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: May 29, 2010
Location: Orange, Tx.
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I work for a Fortune 500 company, they only inquire about felonies.
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03-17-2013, 11:26 AM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Mar 29, 2010
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by GymRat
I work for a Fortune 500 company, they only inquire about felonies.
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Background checks take time and cost money so many times they are limited to searching the areas were you have lived for criminal records. Just move and be good for a few years, don't put old addresses of where you have lived if there was a conviction and chances of finding this kind of info goes way down. There is no central database for all this info yet.
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03-17-2013, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 20, 2010
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by mikkifine
Tell the lady to be honest on the application. If asked if you have been convicted of a misdemeanor then be honest. Just be humble and say you made a mistake and found religion.
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OMG! I cannot believe I am going to say this. I have steered clear of Mikki since I received a caveman diatribe the one and only time I inquired with her about a session. HOWEVER, in this case she is right. Just be honest and humble. Also, the passage of time helps. The OP's friend can also waitress. She can also be an independent contractor and work for herself. If people like heidi fleiss, monica lewinsky, etc. can get passed public humiliation, anyone can get passed a misdemeanor conviction.
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03-17-2013, 06:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 22, 2010
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by Pica Flor
Prostitution conviction is a misdemeanor, why would a lady, or for that matter ANYONE, not qualify for a job for having a misdemeanor conviction? Hell how many professionals people out there have gotten a good job having a DWI conviction or other?
My suggestion, get the lady to apply for whatever job she is interested on, the worse think it can happen, she does not get the job (and that happens to MANY even those with clean records), but in most cases I doubt it would be for a misdemeanor conviction (that of course if there are no other convictions in her record)
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It is the first time.
What say ye OP are you talking about a misdemeanor or a felony conviction?
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03-17-2013, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by boatboy
There is no central database for all this info yet.
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You want to bet?
National Crime Information Center (NCIC)
DPS operates TCIC (Texas Crime Information Center).
If her prints have been run in the system there is a "hit" in the system for her by name, date of birth, and social with the source of the "hit" ... who input the search for the prints by her name and ID.
"You can run, but you can't hide."
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03-17-2013, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
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Originally Posted by boatboy
Background checks take time and cost money so many times they are limited to searching the areas were you have lived for criminal records. Just move and be good for a few years, don't put old addresses of where you have lived if there was a conviction and chances of finding this kind of info goes way down. There is no central database for all this info yet.
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It takes me about 5 minutes to request one and about 2-3 hours to get the full report back and the expense is roughly $70.
Furthermore, it doesn't cost me anything to request a criminal history (national search) through local LE as a requirement of the application process.
"Hiding" is tough today with the internet resources and multiple data bases.
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03-17-2013, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
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Originally Posted by GymRat
I work for a Fortune 500 company, they only inquire about felonies.
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Are you saying the company for which you work or all Fortune 500 companies?
"they"?
If it's the later, that is incorrect.
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03-17-2013, 07:28 PM
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For the initial hiring they may only check on felonies. I work for a Fortune 500 and the HR routinely runs checks on us. Two coworkers were terminated during a routine sweep. One had a BWI, boating while intoxicated. He came from a company my company acquired. HR ran the sweep a year after he came on board. He had one more year of probation but he was terminated.
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03-17-2013, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by pyramider
For the initial hiring they may only check on felonies. I work for a Fortune 500 and the HR routinely runs checks on us. Two coworkers were terminated during a routine sweep. One had a BWI, boating while intoxicated. He came from a company my company acquired. HR ran the sweep a year after he came on board. He had one more year of probation but he was terminated.
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Let me guess. He didn't disclose it. A misdemeanor.
My suggestion was to be honest about it, if asked about ... "arrests, charges, or offenses other than a traffic ticket.
A shoplifting charge/conviction/deferred adjudication is an offene involving "moral turpitude" .. and that is often a Class C misdemeanor and more a Class B misdemeanor.
She can overcome the past, get some skills if she doesn't have any to fit the market, and put a positive point of view to prospective employers. Someone suggested smaller companies, local, and that is a good idea.
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03-17-2013, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Mr Willy
The insurance industry will hire you and you can get a license because it only asks if you have ever been convicted of a felony. You can be truthful and say no..
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There you have it! Just PM Mr. Willy and you got a job!
You say "no" and he say "yes"!
Oh, wait!
http://www.tdi.texas.gov/forms/finag...nse/FIN506.pdf
Excluding traffic violations and first offense DWI:
pending misdemeanor or felony charges?
convicted?
deferred adjudication?
probation?
If you answered "Yes" to any of questions 6a–d, you must submit original certified copies of the charging document, indict- ment, information, or any other charging document, judgment of conviction, and/or deferred adjudication order, probation order, order terminating probation, community supervision and/or parole certificate for each and every crime or offense. If the court states they no longer have the records, please have the court provide us with a letter on their letterhead stating that fact. If you were arrested only and not prosecuted, please provide a records search from the appropriate jurisdiction indicating a final disposition. You must submit a statement describing the circumstances leading to the offense(s). You must include your age at the time(s) of the offense(s).You may provide letters of recommendations from any persons in contact with you that are aware of your criminal past."
But go ahead and contact Mr. Willy for that job!
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03-17-2013, 09:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 21, 2010
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Originally Posted by Pica Flor
Bullshit, a conviction is a conviction, there is no stigma about it. Regardless, that should not stop her for applying for any job she wants. And I would definitely not recommend she lie in her application. Best to come forward and not get caught in a lie.
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I agree! If you are honest about it, they may let it slide. I think these days they are looking mostly for theft or any kind of fraud.
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03-17-2013, 09:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Alli
I agree! If you are honest about it, they may let it slide. I think these days they are looking mostly for theft or any kind of fraud.
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I keep saying this in different ways, I agree 100% with the honesty part, the part of many posts, including this one, I find inappropriate is the "assumption" that her past will not matter ... and to not be prepared for the discussion. It can matter in a number of ways, not the least of which is with co-workers .. male and female. It may be "no big deal" to those posting on this (and similar) board, but to the 99% of the rest of the working public it can! It can also become uncomfortable for her!
The crime is one involving "moral turpitude" and "moral turpitude" is the basis for determining issues of credibility and integrity. That is the basis of theft and fraud inquiries ... it's not about stealing pencils and pens from the office. It's about credibility and integrity. She needs to deal with that issue and be prepared to make a presentation that will convince a prospective employer she is not "that person" any longer and she has turned her life around with a 180 degree course correction.
Don't take my word for it: http://themorrisfirm.net/blog/?p=247
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