Why does discrimination exist in the hobby????

[KenMonk]

Originally Posted by blade78

what, pray tell, did I show any ignorance about?
if someone showed they lack knowledge, my friend, it is you...about why people are fat


oh, so eating doesnt cause you to be obese?
please, inform me of this magic that makes people fat without eating?
LOL


hypothyroid or even leptin insensitivity, both cause a lower basal metabolic rate, won't cause a person to become obese unless they eat
so, fill me in with this magic that makes someone obese without eating?
really, I want to win a nobel prize with the sekrets you has

You also need work on your reading comprehension skills. Other factors play into obesity and it just doesn't come from eating, or over eating. There are several medical coniditions, economic factors, exercise, education, and class level that play into it.

Eating, just by itself, doesn't cause people to become fat, we all have to eat. My suggestion is that you pick up a book once in awhile and educate yourself. You can start with the economic side of being obese in that it cost 3 dollars to produce 3000 calories of junk food, while the same 3 dollars produces 300 calories of healthy food.

[blade78]

Originally Posted by KenMonk

You also need work on your reading comprehension skills. Other factors play into obesity and it just doesn't come from eating, or over eating. There are several medical coniditions, economic factors, exercise, education, and class level that play into it.

Eating, just by itself, doesn't cause people to become fat, we all have to eat. My suggestion is that you pick up a book once in awhile and educate yourself. You can start with the economic side of being obese in that it cost 3 dollars to produce 3000 calories of junk food, while the same 3 dollars produces 300 calories of healthy food.

not at all I comprehend well,. remember, I asked you

Originally Posted by blade78

what, pray tell, did I show any ignorance about?

nothing, otherwise you would have pointed it out, like a fat kid finding a doughnut

HAHAHAHAAHAAH

I asked you to tell me the sekret to becoming fat without eating as the cause.. I listed 2 medical conditions, while possible, won't lead to obesity without eating
and yet you dont do anything, but show me some "ken math" where 3,500 does NOT equal 1 pound

everything you tell me to get learned about has, at the root, EATING, no matter what you eat, pure sugar from the $3 bag of sugar you buy to the Steel Oats oatmeal; 3500
calories are 1 pound
granted things like nonstarchy vegggies(broccoli comes to mind) can be eaten practically without limits and no weight will be gained) but people arent eating obese people arent eating veggies, eh?

eating more than you burn makes you fat
simple as that, my friend,

economics? oh you can only eat ding dongs?
too many ding dongs will make you fat... or else I wouldnt send $$ to afrika monthly to help feed kids, cause they are poor and, with KENS MAGIC SEKRET should be fat!

there are tons of other reasons why people overeat; excitotoxins, example antagonism of the DA receptor in the hypothalamus, etc
but thats not what you talked about is it"?
you said:

Originally Posted by KenMonk

Simply being obese doesn't come from simply eatting too much. .

You continue to prove just how ignorant you are daily by making this hole deeper

next thing I'll hear is the SUN is giving me calories, I ONLY EAT WATER..
wut?

Keep at it, this is making me crack up. Pretty much like when I see people coming out of Trader Joes or Sprouts or Natures pantry(insert health store) and they are fat,they spend $10 on milk, yet are fatties...hmm how does that work with your theory about economic factors?

fat is not an inert tissue and causes cancer, etc in the body..... but no,now I'm just babbling as I wait for my pizza too cook.
keep it up, I want to see how far you can dig this hole..

[blade78]

opps wrong quote

[blade78]

Originally Posted by KenMonk

My suggestion is that you pick up a book once in awhile and educate yourself. .

I cannot find any book that promotes MonkMath, I'd love to educate myself further, so point me out a specific book I should read?

[jackson12345]

Y'all are really getting off subject....

[blade78]

Originally Posted by jackson12345

Y'all are really getting off subject....

agreed, but the OPs topic has been answered correctly, so the subject is dead.

[NoahScape]

Originally Posted by jackson12345

While there is no legal right, it still does not make IT right to lump EVERY black guy into the same category. I'm not crying or anything about not being able to have an encounter with someone, that is there loss! I know who I am, I know what I am working with (because I aim to please and not just be pleased, and I still get mine. I am just venting about how unfair it is. This is something that I see more in the Midwest than I did in Texas. Texas providers were on a whole nother level than these Wichita/Midwest providers.
In response to your last statement...it is no other reason than being black, because these ladies are cool until they find out that I am black. They are willing to meet up until they find out I am black. I did not get cussed out until I said that I was black. So going by deductive reasoning, the common denominator is because I am BLACK! Even though this is the world we love in, it still sucks!!!!

Get over it.

To quote the famous philosopher, Stuart Smalley:

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

Best,
Noah

[blade78]

Originally Posted by KenMonk

You also need work on your reading comprehension skills. Other factors play into obesity and it just doesn't come from eating, or over eating. There are several medical coniditions, economic factors, exercise, education, and class level that play into it.

Eating, just by itself, doesn't cause people to become fat, we all have to eat. My suggestion is that you pick up a book once in awhile and educate yourself. You can start with the economic side of being obese in that it cost 3 dollars to produce 3000 calories of junk food, while the same 3 dollars produces 300 calories of healthy food.

oh yeah, here is the nail in the coffin for you, my friend: this professor ate junk food, ring dings, chips etc, food you can buy for $3 and get 3000 calories
yet he lost weight, improved his blood lipid numbers, etc

HAHA HA HA HA welcome to the 21st century, pick up a book? pfffftttt. I can learn biochem, orgo, and phyisiology all without with leaving my home.
Now, only if I could find a decent girl to come over(with implants/nice ass) I'd be set


http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html


For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.
The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.
For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily.So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.
His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.
But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.
Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.
"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"



Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet.
"I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he said. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer. There's not enough information to do that."
Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.
Families who live in food deserts have limited access to fresh fruits and vegetables, so they often rely on the kind of food Haub was eating.
"These foods are consumed by lots of people," he said. "It may be an issue of portion size and moderation rather than total removal. I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to totally drop these foods for vegetables and fruits. It may be healthy, but not realistic."
Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent. This posed the question: What matters more for weight loss, the quantity or quality of calories?
His success is probably a result of caloric reduction, said Dawn Jackson Blatner, a dietitian in Chicago, Illinois.
"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."
Blatner, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association, said she's not surprised to hear Haub's health markers improved even when he loaded up on processed snack cakes.
Being overweight is the central problem that leads to complications like high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, she said.
How well are you managing your diabetes?
"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," she said.."

[floppydisk]

I've been denied due to age. How about that.

[blade78]

Originally Posted by jackson12345

While there is no legal right, it still does not make IT right to lump EVERY black guy into the same category. I'm not crying or anything about not being able to have an encounter with someone, that is there loss! I know who I am, I know what I am working with (because I aim to please and not just be pleased, and I still get mine. I am just venting about how unfair it is. This is something that I see more in the Midwest than I did in Texas. Texas providers were on a whole nother level than these Wichita/Midwest providers.
In response to your last statement...it is no other reason than being black, because these ladies are cool until they find out that I am black. They are willing to meet up until they find out I am black. I did not get cussed out until I said that I was black. So going by deductive reasoning, the common denominator is because I am BLACK! Even though this is the world we love in, it still sucks!!!!

you sound like a cool dude, people play it safe....can you blame them? sounds like you dont look at the world through their eyes
heres one of my favorite movie quotes"
Look at me. I'm fat, black, can't dance, and I have two gay fathers. People have been messing with me my whole life. I learned a long time ago there's no sense getting all riled up every time a bunch of idiots give you a hard time. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should. Plus I have a really large penis. That keeps me happy.

[NoahScape]

Originally Posted by blade78

oh yeah, here is the nail in the coffin for you, my friend: this professor ate junk food, ring dings, chips etc, food you can buy for $3 and get 3000 calories
yet he lost weight, improved his blood lipid numbers, etc

HAHA HA HA HA welcome to the 21st century, pick up a book? pfffftttt. I can learn biochem, orgo, and phyisiology all without with leaving my home.
Now, only if I could find a decent girl to come over(with implants/nice ass) I'd be set


http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html


For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.
The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.
For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily.So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.
His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.
But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.
Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.
"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"



Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet.
"I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he said. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer. There's not enough information to do that."
Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.
Families who live in food deserts have limited access to fresh fruits and vegetables, so they often rely on the kind of food Haub was eating.
"These foods are consumed by lots of people," he said. "It may be an issue of portion size and moderation rather than total removal. I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to totally drop these foods for vegetables and fruits. It may be healthy, but not realistic."
Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent. This posed the question: What matters more for weight loss, the quantity or quality of calories?
His success is probably a result of caloric reduction, said Dawn Jackson Blatner, a dietitian in Chicago, Illinois.
"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."
Blatner, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association, said she's not surprised to hear Haub's health markers improved even when he loaded up on processed snack cakes.
Being overweight is the central problem that leads to complications like high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, she said.
How well are you managing your diabetes?
"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," she said.."

Wow, quite the missive!

Cyberdyne might just pick you up as a case study.

In academic circles, it would probably be considered a fail, though.

Best,
Noah

[NoahScape]

Originally Posted by floppydisk

I've been denied due to age. How about that.

And I have decided not to see providers due to age, too.

Maybe the provider didn't want to meet a guy that looks like her dad. What's wrong with that?

Think about it. A provider that doesn't want to see you for whatever reason is trying to spare you from a bad experience. And that helps both parties.

Is that so hard to understand?

Best,
Noah

[blade78]

Originally Posted by NoahScape

Wow, quite the missive!

Cyberdyne might just pick you up as a case study.

In academic circles, it would probably be considered a fail, though.

Best,
Noah

yes, I used a term called CUT and PASTE, cause I dont like clicking on links

What I pasted isnt a pubmed study, but it's accurate that's all that matters.
Ken hasnt shown his math about people getting fat based on not eating or whatever he was trying to show, perhaps he is in the library reeding a book?
I posted this to show more evidence(besides basic math) about why I'm right
Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not.

[blade78]

Originally Posted by NoahScape

And I have decided not to see providers due to age, too.

Maybe the provider didn't want to meet a guy that looks like her dad. What's wrong with that?

Think about it. A provider that doesn't want to see you for whatever reason is trying to spare you from a bad experience. And that helps both parties.

Is that so hard to understand?

Best,
Noah

good point

that's always been a oddity
did you know a job can fire you for anything? age, race, etc
but as long as they don't tell you the "illegal" reason, you can't do anything about it

most providers dont want to see me, then I send them a picture of my have a chocolate penis that ejaculates money and they get hungry

[NoahScape]

Originally Posted by blade78

yes, I used a term called CUT and PASTE, cause I dont like clicking on links

What I pasted isnt a pubmed study, but it's accurate that's all that matters.
Ken hasnt shown his math about people getting fat based on not eating or whatever he was trying to show, perhaps he is in the library reeding a book?
I posted this to show more evidence(besides basic math) about why I'm right
Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not.

Gee, I never realized that trying to argue with a chat mod would improve my chances of seeing any provider...

Let me know how that works for you.

Best,
Noah