Screened Provider working forr LE?

[Capt. Lincoln F. Stern]

Originally Posted by waleran.bigod6

Hey all,
I have a weird question. Has anyone ever heard of a screend provider (in this case screened through p411) working with LE and busting a hobbyist? I had such a weird conversation with a very established, AWESOME and well reviewed p411 provider who I have actuall seen in the past that made me nervous. She mentioned money and she mentioned fucking and I just thought it was a bit weird since I thoght those 2 things were ALWAYS off limits to talk about. I think she was just having a conversation honestly but it made me nervous. Thoughts?

Thanks

W

if you had SOLID prove of her working with LE (we talking the kind that will stand up in court) then OUT the provider..


but like so many say.. if it does not feel right.. WALK or RUN away.


may not help those got busted but she will have to start over and the cops might get a stern "finger shaking"

[Malcolm1357]

Its always possible that a working girl gets busted and works with LE to reduce the charges. As far as P411 they are a lot better than date check but they should somehow verify the age that a provider says she is. There is a lot of BS on those profiles, which does a disservice to the legitimacy and reputation of P411. That being said Gina is a solid person and runs a great site.

[Wicket]

Actually, I believe that P411 requires a prospective provider to send a scanned copy of her DL along with a photo of her holding her DL next to her face to ensure that she is at least 18 yrs old. However, whatever a provider puts in her profile is up to her and yeah, there are a number of providers who fib on their age. In Houston, there is one provider who has taken 20 yrs off her actual age. LOL

[cowboy_john]

I am curious if anyone does any research on provider's or client's telephone numbers and what search entities you use? I have found mixed results. A few of the stand-alone search entities are better than others. In one search done out of curiousity with no suspicion whatsoever, I found a locally well-reviewed provider's phone was listed as registered to the local city (She does not have real world job with city BTW). She has a rep of not screening very well. She had recently reactitivated the number. But, would LE use an escort simply for basic intel holding off on busts? Makes little sense.

Thanks. Incredible forum.

[cowboy_john]

Meant to add, she is P411 verified.

[goodtimes_137]

ok so im kind of new to this so.. if i want to know if a provider does GFE or BBBJ how do i ask before i make the date?

[Guest102419]

Originally Posted by goodtimes_137

ok so im kind of new to this so.. if i want to know if a provider does GFE or BBBJ how do i ask before i make the date?

Read her reviews. That should tell you

[19Trees]

If a person is arrested for an [illegal] activity the [criminal defendant] could be offered to cooperate with LE and become "asset" in ongoing operation. Typically this is done in exchange with a plea deal which would lessen-obliterate charges against the "asset."

Let's consider a hypothetical. LE is aware of ongoing criminal enterprise whose principal source of income is through prostitution. LE has been watching and recording activity (ads, cellular records, records from surveillance). It identifies Jane Doe: Because of her record and background, LE believes that if she is arrested and charged, she can be "turned" or "flipped" and begin cooperating with LE...

But HERE is an important rub. For LE to allow or even facilitate FUTURE criminal activity to achieve larger goals (bigger fish, higher crimes, seizure & forfeiture of land/vehicles, etc.): 1) feds and most states require judicial approval and/or approvals at Department level; 2) these operations are fairly expensive for LE and not (now) as common rather more sparse than movies lead us to believe.

Presumably there has been (or will be) a provider who was arrested, and has flipped and will cooperate with LE to avoid jail time. Remember that the "deal" could include entirely unrelated charges...

The prospect of LE using a cooperating asset, to facilitate the arrests of individual Johns seems unlikely but certainly not impossible or out of the range of what could happen.

So if a provider/john gets super sloppy and stupidly makes statements that should have been left unsaid - - should we anticipate the person may be a flipped LE asset who is purposefully incriminating you?

Probably not. But maybe.

19Trees

[Bjohnson3213]

Tough Call -- retired LE -- all depends on the prosecutor - especially around election time - most of the local/state LE agencies now have Grant Writers on staff or under consultant contract to help them get money for operations as mentioned - And I have seen some fairly serious charges (and the arrest recored expunged) disappear so that several arrests could be made timed to prime the voters - statute of limitations is a long time -- as far as judicial approval - easy for the prosecutor working with a special task group to get - If the unusual conversation begins gradually and occurs over time - probably ok - she is getting comfortable with you -- if it is all at once - maybe she has been caught and put between a rock and a hard place and is trying to warn you away -- been known to happen -- all I can say is THINK THINK THINK and if you are even the least bit uncomfortable then say (as the provider) "what are you talking about? What is that money for? I am NOT a prostitute! Get out of here and leave me alone! -- as the client, "What are you talking about? I'm not giving you money for sex or a lewd act. That's against the law!! and then leave briskly - you are probably on camera or at least audio-- and Ladies - if the client says inappropriate things all of a sudden - then use the phrase I quoted and get rid of him or hang up - he may have been popped for some other charge and offered to help LE to get a deal -- I know that has happened too - this is a dangerous game we play -