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Old 02-05-2013, 08:44 PM   #46
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Taint is like fingerprints. I can tell who the lady is by her taint.

Every lady has her screening. Either accept the screening or move on. Have I ever been asked for ID? No, but usually the lady is thorough with her screening (ladies can be thorough without asking for ID, very thorough).
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:57 PM   #47
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I've only been asked to show my ID once and she let me know ahead of time that she was going to ask for it. I have no problem showing it if everything else on it is covered up. I'm a single guy, never married, no kids, a non-high profile job, very ordinary citizen that nobody knows. If a provider tried to blackmail me what would they have? Who would they tell? The worst possible thing I can think of is that the rents would find out but who cares, I'm a grown ass man. My mother may come to the conclusion that I'm a horrible catholic but I already told her that years ago when I left the denomination.

On the other hand, I do question why a P411 verified provider would find the need to ask a verified P411 client for ID. P411 does have the option for clients to post a photo to their profile. If a client has a legit clearly visible photo on his profile and the provider sees it and can determine the moment he walks in that they are the same person, then I would imagine there's no need to see the ID.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:10 PM   #48
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yes rc83, blackmail is a very real risk for many of us. It happens all the time to those who are stupid enough to give out real life information while hobbling.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:12 PM   #49
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I guess it depends. When I first met this beautiful young woman for the first time. I HAD to meet her. She asked if I had an id. She didnt ask to see it. I volunteered to show it to her. I made an exception for her. I agree you do have to do what you are comfortable with but I wont show my I.D. to anyone else unless they want to show me theirs. Its only fair right?
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:24 PM   #50
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Oh yeah. I was asked through text once what my birthday was. I gave one that was a relatives because I have 4 people in my family with the same name so its easy to get our info mixed up. The reason was because she was acting very odd as to why she just randomly wanted to know my birthday all of a sudden. Not a 'hey how are you? just ''Whats your date of birth?" I mean what would you expect someone to say to a out of the blue random question like that? not even a "hey I want to get you a birthday present or a birthday card, when's your birthday?"..literally just 'whats your date of birth?' lol Im not kidding. It was so weird.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:42 PM   #51
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I have seen Taylor a few times she concerned about safety. It's part of her screening process not to get your personal info, but to make her feel safe.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:46 PM   #52
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I'm not sure why the thread got to this point, it shouldn't have honestly, I was truly shocked that something that is suggested by probably the number one most trusted screening site in the hobby (P411) is shunned by so many and would turn into this flame war.
Seems like a pretty civil discussion...note sure why you see it as a flame war just because some people don't agree with you. Just because you see it as black and white doesnt mean everyone else does.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:18 PM   #53
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When I travel outside of the Dallas area some guys do show me their ID without me asking even when some business travelers come to Dallas. I've only come across very few guys that actually have their picture posted on their profile so I would know who I’m going to meet.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:39 AM   #54
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I never take my wallet to a session! We can confirm information discussed through pm or email. Chances are if she's pimped or managed she will not know the info discussed.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:07 AM   #55
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Does this mean we get to see the provider ID as well? Only seems fair, right?
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:24 AM   #56
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Maybe for newbies show id,but for respected gents here/ p411 that you can screen via pm & p411/verify at least two past verifed providers that gent has seen etc....why should that gent show id.?.but to each its own.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:30 AM   #57
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Taylor, I do feel for you and understand why you are frustrated: you're in a strange town, probably have few contacts here, and the data available for screening is so vast that it can be overwhelming to sort through. Faced with those facts, I'd likely approach the problem in a similar manner if I was in your shoes.

OTOH, I hope you recognize that the culture here may be different than in other cities you've visited. Most of us that are active and engaged can check out a provider/client without having to check IDs, and can feel good about our decisions based on the information we are able to gather.

I hope that despite your frustration you are able to have a fruitful visit in Dallas, and that the experience will be positive and you will want to come back. It is true we have many beautiful providers in DFW, but we could always use more!
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:36 AM   #58
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Have never been asked for ID, But, as I book through P411, I keep aphotocopy of my DL with everything blocked out but the photo and first name. Then I have a copy of what has the 4 digits on it with everything but my first name and the last 4 digits blacked out. As a whole they verify I am legit on P411 and as they are completly unrelated documents, no one can trace me with the info provided.

If a lady I book on P411 asked, I would provide the info. Someone not on P411, not so sure I would comply.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:29 AM   #59
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Have never been asked for ID, But, as I book through P411, I keep aphotocopy of my DL with everything blocked out but the photo and first name. Then I have a copy of what has the 4 digits on it with everything but my first name and the last 4 digits blacked out. As a whole they verify I am legit on P411 and as they are completly unrelated documents, no one can trace me with the info provided.

If a lady I book on P411 asked, I would provide the info. Someone not on P411, not so sure I would comply.
Great idea with the photocopy!


I can definitely vouch for Taylor. Her P411 account and reviews here should be enough to prove she is legit.

The very first provider I ever saw asked for personal info in her screening process. Not knowing any better or having any other way to be verified I gave it to her. She checked my ID when I got there. No problem. Saw her a few times and when she retired she recommended me to a new provider she was friends with.

Anyone who is familiar with using P411 should be prepared to show an ID. This is directly from P411:

"I often recommend that gentlemen temporarily cover the other private information with tape or whiteout, leaving only the photo, matching name, and DAY of birth (on driver's license) and last four digits (on something in wallet) for the provider to check. Of course, it's always a good idea to let the provider know you are going to cover the other information, in case her personal policy would not allow for this.

If you schedule an appointment via P411 and upon arrival refuse to show identification to confirm you are the true account holder, please understand that your provider may exercise her right to refuse to see you. Also keep in mind that your provider has an obligation to report this to P411. Depending on the circumstances, P411 may suspend the account under which the appointment was made until the situation is resolved.

We have a terrible problem with people "sharing" client ids, sometimes to book appointments and sometimes to rip the provider off, or worse. These situations are becoming more common, and can be easily prevented if the provider takes a moment to confirm that the person before her has identification to match the client id.

I strongly encourage the ladies to check identification to make sure it matches the client id, and we are seeing more and more ladies following through, so be prepared! If your client id doesn't currently match your identification as indicated above, please contact us and we can fix it."


P411 at least has a system to verify you are who you say you are. However, any guy here can call a provider, say he's someone else and use that person's handle for verification. Unfortunately, there is no way to verify a handle here with an ID so asking for one for an non-P411 member doesn't do a whole lot of good. Anyone can say they're someone else and there's no way to prove it when they show up for an appointment.

We had a situation in NOLA once where a girl got busted. She set up an appointment with an ECCCIE member (supposedly) but she never corresponded with him via PM on this site. She only had his handle. Turned out that the cops just used his handle to get verified and she got arrested.

When it comes down to it, if you know in advance that a lady requires ID and you're not comfortable providing it, don't see her. She's doing it for her safety and yours. I never understood the need for a provider to see an ID that wasn't related to some other screening method (P411 or if you provided your real name to her), but even if she wants to see it I really doubt she'd remember what she saw unless she has a photographic memory. At best, she might remember your full name but she'd probably forget it by the end of the session.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:22 PM   #60
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So, has anyone seen Taylor in Dallas?
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