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Old 01-16-2013, 07:47 PM   #31
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Sounds like Obama suckered in the gun nuts.

First he announces ominously that he doesn't need to wait for Congress to take action on guns because he can take action all by himself through executive order.

Then he says nothing while 2nd Amendment absolutists proclaim that he is about to become a dictator and confiscate everyone's guns.

Then he issues a lukewarm porridge of dopey executive orders that arguably ARE within the scope of executive power.

The Executive orders won't actually accomplish anything, but the gun rights lobby looks shrill for all of their chicken little screaming.

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The President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
Share information they already have.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
"Unnecessary" legal barriers? Nice weasel wording. How do you argue against that?

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
More information sharing

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
In other words, do his job.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
More database nonsense.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
Send a letter about doing already legal background checks. Wow, that's tough!.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Just say "No!" to letting your gun get stolen!

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
Do a study!!!

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
Do something they can already do!

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
Spread a report!!!

11. Nominate an ATF director.
Do his job!!!

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
More training for government workers!

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
Whatever that means!!!

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
Do a study to find out what happens when you pull a trigger!!!

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
Publish a report on gun safety - and challenge the NRA to do something they already do!!!!

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Also, clarify that the ACA does not prohibit doctors from asking patients about their favorite sports teams, or if they are ass men or breast men, or what they think about strawman executive orders.

17. Release a letter to health-care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law-enforcement authorities.
Hey, doc! You are allowed to report threats of violence to the cops! Just in case you were wondering.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
Whatever that means!

19. Develop model emergency-response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
Teach people how to run for cover!

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental-health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
Another fucking letter!!!

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
WTF???

22. Commit to finalizing mental-health-parity regulations.
Do their jobs? Your guess is as good as mine.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
More talking heads on TV!!!
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:02 PM   #32
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Sounds like Obama suckered in the gun nuts.

First he announces ominously that he doesn't need to wait for Congress to take action on guns because he can take action all by himself through executive order.

Then he says nothing while 2nd Amendment absolutists proclaim that he is about to become a dictator and confiscate everyone's guns.

Then he issues a lukewarm porridge of dopey executive orders that arguably ARE within the scope of executive power.

The Executive orders won't actually accomplish anything, but the gun rights lobby looks shrill for all of their chicken little screaming.
It seems to me that the Prez is learning to play the same Fiddle that the Arkansas Hillbilly used to play. The Far Right Wing-Nuts seem to fall for that tune each and every time!
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:03 PM   #33
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So you run away from it? Or do you try to bite the dog?
Hmmmm, are you having a "man crisis?"
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:19 PM   #34
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you nut liberals see nothing wrong with him bypassing congress? Imagine if a republican president abused executive privilege as much as this bozo does.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:22 PM   #35
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For the most part our mental health system doesn't work .... which is why so many "fall through the cracks" ... so now Obaminable is going to use the sick mental health system to cure the "gun control problem"?
Since my recollection is that they said this is where we should start, you're saying the NRA is full of shit?

Why do i get the feeling that if Obama didn't say anything about mental health, you'd be all over him for that? Oh wait, i know.

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To turn us into a Social Democratic State where we don't cling to our guns and religion. We have an Arab Spring. Or Both.
You're a broken record.

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Does having a gun make it easier, or harder for them?
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:33 PM   #36
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you nut liberals see nothing wrong with him bypassing congress? Imagine if a republican president abused executive privilege as much as this bozo does.
Bozo Reagan used it 3 times

Bozo Bush used it 6 times

Bozo Obama has used it 1 time


yeah, imagine if a republican predisent used/abused EP as much as Obie has
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:06 PM   #37
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Please describe how any of these new regulations would have prevented Sandy Hook from occurring.
It's really not designed to prevent. It's just political people saying " Hey Look At Us We're Doing Something About This" Law abiding citizens will understand and criminal types will say " Fuck Off".
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:17 PM   #38
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Bozo Reagan used it 3 times

Bozo Bush used it 6 times

Bozo Obama has used it 1 time


yeah, imagine if a republican predisent used/abused EP as much as Obie has

Clinton used it 14 times.

You just proved that liberals don't look at all the information, just those that benefit their needs.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:23 PM   #39
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Sounds like Obama suckered in the gun nuts.

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The Executive orders won't actually accomplish anything, but the gun rights lobby looks shrill for all of their chicken little screaming.
Nobody got suckered but the liberal press. I agree with most of what you say, especially the comments in red.

The EOs make the President look weak and ineffective. His hiding behind children in the signing ceremony was quite appropriate.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:39 PM   #40
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How many children has Obama killed in his drone strikes? Not sure I take his concern for children too seriously.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:41 PM   #41
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It's really not designed to prevent. It's just political people saying " Hey Look At Us We're Doing Something About This" Law abiding citizens will understand and criminal types will say " Fuck Off".
That pretty much covers it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:01 PM   #42
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The illusion of action. He is good at it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:17 AM   #43
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FUCK you COMMIE BASTARD...
Ignorant motherfucker. Are they coming for your guns or not?

I haven't seen so much knee jerking, since COG got some butt love in the Salina bus station.

Please continue to whine about the rights you haven't had restricted.

Of course, you will probably be disqualified from gun ownership because you're in THE DIPSHIT DATABASE!
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:20 AM   #44
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How many children has Obama killed in his drone strikes? Not sure I take his concern for children too seriously.
You're an asshole ad the most dishonest member of ECCIE.

If there was a given in this debate it was that you'd shit on everything that came it.

You have no credibility.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:24 AM   #45
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The LIBERAL PRESS. Of course, Gonadbreath. that's the problem with America.

Broken records in the digital age. I AM depressed.
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