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Old 12-12-2012, 03:07 PM   #61
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I understand buddy; there is nothing positive to post about this guy occupying the White House. You are left to try and defend the indefensible with him...but hey, you can always scream at us "we won, you lost" !!!!!!!!!!
I've asked you this a number of times, Whirlyturd.

WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST WE DO ABOUT IT?

And aren't you a little late? Maybe you did what you could and just couldn't sell your altogether plausible point of view to AMERICA!
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:09 PM   #62
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Like I have posted; the fight is well underway in state houses across America. From Scranton to Sacramento.

Win some lose some. The states will re-assert their power and counter the Socialist agenda of Obama and his blind followers.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:17 PM   #63
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Open War? Obama Backs Syria Rebels 'Infiltrated With Terrorists' (Everybody Knows)

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=621367
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:55 PM   #64
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Whirlaway, no matter what you point out to the liberals, their blinders will not let them see. They only drink the kool-aid. Never ceases to amaze me that no matter how much information is pointed out regarding the path this president and his goonies are taking us, the liberals fail to see it. Kinda reminds me of what happened in the 30's.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:57 PM   #65
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They know SA; this is the path the anti-American socialists have been dreaming of for decades. And Obama knows it. He told us. He said he wanted to "transform America." That is exactly what he is doing. With full knowledge and purpose.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:01 PM   #66
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Yes, we have been discovered and our diabolical plot is now in the open for all to see.

You know, I thought that the level of nuttiness would ratchet down around here after the election. Apparently not.....

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:58 PM   #67
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Obama has hired 101 federal workers every day since taking office in 2009. (they are better paid, work less, and have better job security than the private sector) !

http://news.investors.com/politics-a...#ixzz2EhDuT2Qk
Are you going to ignore the fact that federal employment increased by only 13,000 jobs from 2009 to 2010? Ignore the fact that 13,000 includes temps to perform the census? Ignore the fact that 11,000 of those 13,000 are uniformed military? Ignore the fact that federal employment, not including the military, has been above 2.6 million workers every year since 1966?

Like most of whirlys posts, this one has facts that aren't facts and facts that may or may not be facts that misrepresent the main topic. I checked this one story of this author and it is filled with misinformation and incorrect numbers. Like the following.

"In the 1,420 days since he took the oath of office, the federal government has daily hired on average 101 new employees. Every day. Seven days a week. All 202 weeks. That makes 143,000 more federal workers than when Obama talked forever on that cold day in January of 2009"

Since the data only goes to 2010, maybe he is using 2009 to 2010 to extrapolate his data to the present. Let say he is. The number of new hires really doesn't mean shit until you compare it to the number of employees that left, retired, died, etc. See above for actual increases and where they occur.
He of course posts no links to show where his numbers come from. And his numbers are different from the U.S.O.P.M. (U.S. Office of Personnel Management).

Then we have;

"Under Obama the total federal workforce has surpassed two million for the first time since the first Clinton term, now sitting about the 2.2 ,million level."

The table clearly shows federal employment, not including the uniformed military (who are clearly part of the total federal workforce), has been at 2.6 million or higher since 1966.

The rest of the premise for his story is based on polls, not facts. Which is OK because this is op-ed, not news or factual. I should say op-ed based on lies and guesses.

So what do you think cog? Who is it that will not see?

I didn't waste my time debunking this headline because of all the members who bought into it. They all took his bait and mastered it.

I won't waste more time by reading and researching any of his other articles because they are probably the same in the accuracy department.
Of course if somebody is willing to stake their credibility on a story he wrote as being factual, I would be willing to read that.

http://www.opm.gov/feddata/HistoricalTables/TotalGovernmentSince1962.asp
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:21 AM   #68
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He's just another foot stamping tantrum throwing baby in the grocery store! Can't make sense to him or get any from him.

Pity. I'd hate to be in a workplace with some of these lunatics!

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:40 AM   #69
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Good debunk Munch. Also, federal workers are far better educated on average than the average public sector worker and so make better average salaries, but no one here bothers to take "facts" like that into account.

I don't bother wasting my time debunking the crap righties put here since it takes them only seconds to post lies and BS and it takes significantly longer to dig up truth and facts.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:21 AM   #70
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Not only complete rubbish; but lazy commentary. BTW, if you are half-intelligent it doesn't take all that long to support your opinions with some facts. You are just a lazy observer.

Here are the facts as reported in a recent CBO study on this subject.

The KEY Finding:
Overall, the federal government paid 16 percent more in total compensation than it would have if average compensation had been comparable with that in the private sector, after accounting for certain observable characteristics of workers.

But for the leftards who need pictograms to understand:



The study also does not consider job security. There can be no doubt that federal employees enjoy much greater job security than those in the private sector. It is not unreasonable to conclude that federal employment is a very good deal: 16% more compensation, on the average, perhaps for doing less work, and certainly with better job security.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42921

And Here is the report that shows Government employees do less work and work less hour than private sector employees. An indication that the government employee has a very very cushy existence when compared to private sector workers.



http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...ctor-employees




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... Also, federal workers are far better educated on average than the average public sector worker and so make better average salaries, but no one here bothers to take "facts" like that into account.

I don't bother wasting my time debunking the crap righties put here since it takes them only seconds to post lies and BS and it takes significantly longer to dig up truth and facts.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:33 AM   #71
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Blue Shield of California seeks rate hikes up to 20%

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,6546740.story

More fallout from Obama's war on the middle class.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:13 AM   #72
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ELECTION OVER, ADMINISTRATION UNLEASHES NEW RULES

Obama's assault on the economy continues...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...12-13-03-21-05
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:28 PM   #73
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Aetna CEO Sees Obama Health Law Doubling Some Premiums

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...-premiums.html

The obamacare tsunami continues..............
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:32 PM   #74
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The MOST DEPRESSING headline I have posted to date:

PROSPERITY: US DROPS OUT OF TOP TEN

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...of-top-ten.php
"we learn that for the first time, the United States does not rank as one of the world’s ten most prosperous nations, as rated by London’s Legatum Institute. The authors of the report found that the U.S.’s slippage is being driven by “a decline in the number of US citizens who believe that hard work will get them ahead.” Well, they’re right: in Barack Obama’s America, hard work doesn’t cause you to get ahead; being politically connected does. We are all paying the price for the corruption of the Age of Obama."


Obama's Marxist Dream of killing-off the American Dream is becoming a reality !!
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