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Guest102513-1 · 12-04-2012, 08:31 PM

garcia...ya don't need to know this low-life murderer, to see the plain & simple facts of what this killer did to his G/f, baby, Mother...and others that encountered him on Saturday. And yes, those facts not only give us a time line of his actions on Saturday...but a true, independent insight, into what type of individual he was. Of course you are entitled to your thoughts...and yes you acknowledge what he did was wrong.

But like you claim, I also have a very low tolerance when I see obvious signs of stupidity....I mean come on, who the heck doesn't have a low tolerance for ignorance???

So now you read my words, very slowllly...to somehow think this guy was an OK guy, and his actions on
Saturday were somehow an anomaly, well your comprehensive skills of judging this murderer is truly an indication of how little you knew what this guy was all about.

Do you need to explain your IRL relationships to any of us...of course not. But when you post something,
that plain and simply does not support the undisputable facts...which go way beyond the timeline of Saturdays decisions by this murderer...don't expect us to not call you out for your thoughts.

You say "I rarely post on here"....personally I am looking forward to you keeping that as your continue involvement on this site.

Bomb Pop · 12-05-2012, 08:55 AM

+1 to aspen, my late (not missed much) father was like that. Mr. Smiles and glad-handing in public, verbally abusive and controlling at home.

Garcia, if all you do is come in and call out others' "stupidity", you wonder why you get blasted? Either be a contributing member (both positive and negative) or just sign-off. Trolling gets old real fast (i.e. helicopter206/flightmedic)

Guest052616 · 12-05-2012, 10:17 AM

IJS..

Kshunter · 12-06-2012, 07:46 AM

This is fucking disgusting. That's why Scott Pioli is a loser who's built a losing team. Lack of character. http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/05...r-belcher.html

ElumEno · 12-06-2012, 12:21 PM

I could see this if all he did was kill himself.

I know to some this is going to sound harsh, but in my opinion they should have burned the murdering ass wipe and flushed him down the toilet.

dirty dog · 12-06-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ElamEno

I could see this if all he did was kill himself.

I know to some this is going to sound harsh, but in my opinion they should have burned the murdering ass wipe and flushed him down the toilet.

Doesnt his mother and family members deserve the dignity of seeing their loved one put to rest, did they do something to deserve seeing their loved one "burned". Funerals are not for the dead, they are for the living. His mother derserves sympathy for what she witnessed, for losing her son and for now having to raise a 3 month old child. What Jovan did was horrible, and he should be the one that is punished not his mother and family. Let them grief in peace, as they deserve the same respect as the Perkins family. Jovan is being judged now and will get the punishment he deserves,.

Kshunter · 12-06-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dirty dog

Doesnt his mother and family members deserve the dignity of seeing their loved one put to rest, did they do something to deserve seeing their loved one "burned". Funerals are not for the dead, they are for the living. His mother derserves sympathy for what she witnessed, for losing her son and for now having to raise a 3 month old child. What Jovan did was horrible, and he should be the one that is punished not his mother and family. Let them grief in peace, as they deserve the same respect as the Perkins family. Jovan is being judged now and will get the punishment he deserves,.

Fine, bury the fuck. But to see the Chiefs bawling about it nauseates me. That's why they're a bunch of fucking losers.

ElumEno · 12-06-2012, 01:54 PM

You are right about funerals being for the living.. that is why I said I could see it if he just killed himself and that it was just my opinion,
but should the media be covering everyone talking about "what a great man he was"? sorry but that is total bullshit.

And I have the same opinion about anyone that does the selfish acts that he did.
If it was me that killed my girlfriend and then went to work and killed myself in front of my bosses leaving a three month old behind.
Yeah I would be on the 10' clock news, hell I might even be on the morning news.
but do you think they would be talking about me, my girlfriend, are child after 24 hours?

The only good thing that might come out of this whole tragedy is that it has placed a small spot light on the domestic violence issue.
but even that has now been overshadowed by some idiots thinking it was the guns fault that this all happened.

dirty dog · 12-06-2012, 01:54 PM

They were his friends, his family and they deserve the right to grieve. If your best friend were to snap one day and do the same thing, would you be acting this way. I doubt it, the reality is like them you are going to hate what he did but grieve the loss of someone you cared about.

dirty dog · 12-06-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ElamEno

You are right about funerals being for the living.. that is why I said I could see it if he just killed himself and that it was just my opinion,
but should the media be covering everyone talking about "what a great man he was"? sorry but that is total bullshit.

And I have the same opinion about anyone that does the selfish acts that he did.
If it was me that killed my girlfriend and then went to work and killed myself in front of my bosses leaving a three month old behind.
Yeah I would be on the 10' clock news, hell I might even be on the morning news.
but do you think they would be talking about me, my girlfriend, are child after 24 hours?

The only good thing that might come out of this whole tragedy is that it has placed a small spot light on the domestic violence issue.
but even that has now been overshadowed by some idiots thinking it was the guns fault that this all happened.

I understand your position but the words are for the family, his mother, what are they supposed to say, he was a rotten no good selfish mother fucker that deserved to die. While this is all true, I am not sure that it would have brought his mother much comfort. As for the media, well be mad at the media, I know you will find a lot of support for your position, but dont allow your anger at the media to be projected on his mother and family and friends, thats all I am saying.

ElumEno · 12-06-2012, 02:24 PM

Your right DD, you hit the target...
I think a lot of my anger over this tragedy is more at the media coverage then the man himself.

I have had a friend that committed suicide, that was almost thirty years ago and when I stop to think about it,
I still to this day have the what if's.

Kshunter · 12-06-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ElamEno

I have had a friend that committed suicide, that was almost thirty years ago and when I stop to think about it,
I still to this day have the what if's.

Did he blow someone else away before doing it?

dirty dog · 12-06-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kshunter

Did he blow someone else away before doing it?

Are you this angry because it was a murder suicide or because it was a known (i wont say famous) person involved. I dont remember seeing this anger and diatribe over the 3 other murder/suicides that have occured in this city this year. If you upset because of the press coverage of this situation than I can completely understand. Did you known the victim, just not understanding your "anger" over the situation, I mean its sad, horrible and terrible tragedy, but it does not anger me, it saddens me.

ElumEno · 12-06-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kshunter

Did he blow someone else away before doing it?

No - the friend that beat a lady to death with a ball bat is still in prison.
(hit her one time with enough force to knock her brains out the back of her head)
Now you might wonder why I still call him 'Friend', You see I was with him the night it happened,
I knew he had something planned and I wanted to go.
But he pulled me to the side and told me that I had my life straighten out right then and if I tired to join him,
he would kick my ass, so I want home all pissed off.

It was not until years later that I realized how much of a true friend he was.
and no I have not talked to him since that night, and no I do not condone what he did, but I just might look him up.

ElumEno · 12-06-2012, 05:58 PM

Let me clarify something...

He was planning on breaking into this woman's home whom was suppose to have been out of town and not planning on killing someone.
There is a lot more to the story but it came out later that they found about 1.4 million in gold, silver and drugs at the house.