TRAITS OF A UPSCALE,HIGH CLASS PROVIDER

[Brooklyn Sky]

an upscale provider should cater to her clients needs offering services beyond what's expected
there are few i will actually consider upscale

[Annef]

Originally Posted by ~Ze~

Not exactly the public behavior one would look for in an HDH.

Why don't you start by reading how members of this forum interact with each other. Read topics they discuss... observe and examine.

That would leave one to believe that there are nothing but adolescent mean girls who do this. I'm sorry, that is the element on this board. (and I'm tallking about the guys). I don't think looking on this board is the best way to be a courtesan. And, I"m not sure that thing actuallly exists in this day and age. Get a decent hotel room, be a decent person, and don't let anyone take advantage of you. There you go. High class gal.

[Annef]

Originally Posted by John Bull

Two pages and going on three. Way to go ladies.

Here are a few thoughts for the grist mill.
An HDH starts her biz at about 24 yrs old. She can't start much earlier because it takes that long to learn how to conduct herself. She's out of the biz by about 35 having made enough money to keep her for the rest of her life.
She doesn't advertise; she networks. She devised ways to move in the economic strata where her customers are and she works hard to fit in. Her screening is for safety, disease and economic stability. She doesn't bother screening for LE because there are none at that level.
On her off time she spends much of her time in spas, gyms and libraries. Preparation never stops because every hair and muscle needs to be perfectly done. Her clothes are designer or fashionably casual as are her jewels, most of which were gifts. Her plastic surgeon is the best she can find and she won't have double D's.
Her dates don't pay her so much as they gift her but the gifts are understood to be in the 5 to 6 figures and don't bother asking her to be available for an evening, much less an hour, unless you are a highly regarded regular and she feels she'll be entertained. Her dates last a week or maybe a month. Oh and by the way, she travels on her dates dime - 1st class air is minimum but she much prefers to be picked up by his private jet.
As to her bedroom activities, she is an expert and she only says no when the activity isn't safe for her or will mark her.

Good lord, and in what century do you live, sir? Most women are like me. I have two degrees and am working on my third which is the reason I left professional life for this. Time is my most valuable commodity righ tnow. I don't need to spend time in libraries; i'm as educated as you are. I have foudn that the women do this are really diverse and interesting and most of them have lives and don't picked up by private jets. What novels have you been reading? That is utterly ridiculous. God.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Annef

Good lord, and in what century do you live, sir? Most women are like me. I have two degrees and am working on my third which is the reason I left professional life for this. Time is my most valuable commodity righ tnow. I don't need to spend time in libraries; i'm as educated as you are. I have foudn that the women do this are really diverse and interesting and most of them have lives and don't picked up by private jets. What novels have you been reading? That is utterly ridiculous. God.

Well, I think there is a point there from what he said, but no one between 24 and 35 needs a plastic surgeon . Or at least they should not need one .
Plus, it takes a lot more than 24 years of age to learn "how to conduct" yourself. I think people need minimum til 30 (or 30 something) to conduct a career or make educations (university or like) into profitable businesses.

And I don`t see many 24 year old escorts flying in private planes either . They probably wish, but as far as I am concerned, guys are much more "giving" to women who have already established a well going business outside this area and are done with libraries already .

The women that I know who get picked up in private jets and where not amount of money is spared are around 45 to 50 or even mid fifty.
It`s no art to be able to seduce a 24 year old. In that age many people usually think they know it all, which makes them a pain in the ass for anyone, that knows they certainly don`t know it all ).... So, guys are easier spending time with women who have a CV that proofs and backs up their "claims" of "being able to conduct" themselves .

Plus , again: Guys that spend that amount of money certainly don`t do so for "known" escorts. The seduction of the game is that they seduce women, who don`t need their money, are playing in a similar league.

Last I heard was a 50 year old business woman getting 5000 Euro for an hour of "privacy" with a 36 year old gentleman. She likes the tease of the game. Neither does she have a webpage, nor does she "network", because no one would even guess. I doubt he would have spent that amount of money for any known escort. That is - I think - the essence of wealthy men trying to impress women. They are not inclined to pay if you have a page with rates that demand him to do so.

Hence, again, there are no "High dollar hotties" with escort pages or similar mindsets. Because and HDH is still not playing in the same league like these Gents do, no matter what, let alone with 24 to 35. Only a woman playing in the same league and having the same payroll is getting that kind of treatment.
It`s a myth. How much do the usual HDHs charge ? Between 1000 and 2000 for 2 hours, or more? Then get cheaper the longer the guy books?
That is not HDH, because between 300 or 500 an hour is pretty standard. 200 more is not the big fat difference really.

[Niko Ellis]

Upscale is in the eye of the beholder.
However no matter a woman's pedigree, whether she is upscale in escort terms or not, I would hope she would present an unforgettable experience for every SINGLE ONE of her clients.

What makes me special is my attention to detail. For me this is a luxury experience, every single individual should walk away as if he or she came back from a 5 star spa.
Be unforgettable, always be impeccable in attire, demeanor, and spirit.
There is no harm in enjoying what you do.

xoxox
N.

[Annef]

Exatly. Perfect post. But, I do think this whole conversation which has been discussed over and over again is a very romantic one. In my mind, just as silly as the notion that all women who do this are damaged, sad drug addicts. What I have found doing this is that the lived reality for most women is neither of these two constructs. It's a job. It pays the bills and sometimes pays off the bills. Sometimes its fun and amazing. And sometimes its annoying and feels ojectifying. In short, its a job. A high class woman is one who strives to do it well and have fun doing with no apologies to anyone, despite all the romanticism and stigma that seem to be created around it.

[TheAntichrist666]

Great topic : )

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Annef

Exatly. Perfect post. But, I do think this whole conversation which has been discussed over and over again is a very romantic one. In my mind, just as silly as the notion that all women who do this are damaged, sad drug addicts.

I concur with what you said. Some seems to be about branding certain stereotypes, which also explains why certain phrases or depictions are almost on any escort page. It`s a picture, or an impression. But it has nothing to do with reality. In reality there is no difference between a so called HDH and someone that has different rates. It`s the depiction and the stereotype that might vary. But more often than not , it not even doesn`t. Starts when you look at the effort people make for their home pages. I mostly don`t see HDHs doing a far better jobs at these realms.
ANd I think this is where the depiction already starts. And the deceiving.

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

I concur with what you said. Some seems to be about branding certain stereotypes, which also explains why certain phrases or depictions are almost on any escort page. It`s a picture, or an impression. But it has nothing to do with reality. In reality there is no difference between a so called HDH and someone that has different rates. It`s the depiction and the stereotype that might vary. But more often than not , it not even doesn`t. Starts when you look at the effort people make for their home pages. I mostly don`t see HDHs doing a far better jobs at these realms.
ANd I think this is where the depiction already starts. And the deceiving.

I think one of the things that makes me the angriest about the whole HDH thing is the classicism that exists within that realm. I cannot stand it when some of the HDH girls think they are in a totally different realm than the rest of us, God forbid, 'cheaper' girls who charge, oh, 400 an hour. When some women start to think they're better than other working girls, that's when the divisions within this already marginalized profession begin, and we can never have any true sisterhood until those gaps and divisions close. I think the psychological term for this is called 'othering'. Some feel the need to rise above others because they already feel bad about what they are doing. In my experienvce, I've known 150 dollar an hour girls who had more class and manners than a snobby HDH. And we also know it's a fact that most HDH's these days have to lower their rates ( though God forbid they would never say that) for their regulars and don't really command the rates that they advertise. BBFS seems to be more common for those girls too who do a lot of expensive travelling with their clients.

Remember Eliot Spitzer and the Emperor's Club? He, like other men who paid top dollar for those girls, didn't wear a condom and didn't expect to because of the price. I wouldn't want to be in that category of girls who risked themselves like that because of money, because you can't put a price on my life or my health.

That being said, it doesn't help either that there's this obsession in the media to somehow portray all of us working girls as sad, abused, neglected, fucked up women. Never once has a girl ever been shown to be intelligent, saavy as a businesswoman, or that many of us DO have degrees, are educated and wisely manage our money, own property, or have other jobs. Look at this article here and it's no wonder why people have such a negative view of sex work when they see this kind of thing.

http://cpoy.org/index.php?s=WinningImages&c=25 5

[b2pop]

Shayla come to Dallas!!!!! You would be a HDH here.

[Guest022414-1]

The part I love most about providing is giving the VIP experience. I feel like right when they walk through the door, it should be a decadent passionate experience. And if they give you monthly stipends with no bs, then you can surprise them and visit them and be even more VIP with the time! I think that every dollar counts to the guy and should to the girl. Girls who don't know how to be a sexy home maker shouldn't pretend they are. I'm glad there are classy providers on this site. And on P411. Makes it fun to chat about these things.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by alluringava

I think one of the things that makes me the angriest about the whole HDH thing is the classicism that exists within that realm. I cannot stand it when some of the HDH girls think they are in a totally different realm than the rest of us, God forbid, 'cheaper' girls who charge, oh, 400 an hour. When some women start to think they're better than other working girls, that's when the divisions within this already marginalized profession begin, and we can never have any true sisterhood until those gaps and divisions close. I think the psychological term for this is called 'othering'. Some feel the need to rise above others because they already feel bad about what they are doing. In my experienvce, I've known 150 dollar an hour girls who had more class and manners than a snobby HDH. And we also know it's a fact that most HDH's these days have to lower their rates ( though God forbid they would never say that) for their regulars and don't really command the rates that they advertise. BBFS seems to be more common for those girls too who do a lot of expensive travelling with their clients.

Remember Eliot Spitzer and the Emperor's Club? He, like other men who paid top dollar for those girls, didn't wear a condom and didn't expect to because of the price. I wouldn't want to be in that category of girls who risked themselves like that because of money, because you can't put a price on my life or my health.

That being said, it doesn't help either that there's this obsession in the media to somehow portray all of us working girls as sad, abused, neglected, fucked up women. Never once has a girl ever been shown to be intelligent, saavy as a businesswoman, or that many of us DO have degrees, are educated and wisely manage our money, own property, or have other jobs. Look at this article here and it's no wonder why people have such a negative view of sex work when they see this kind of thing.

http://cpoy.org/index.php?s=WinningImages&c=25 5

Could not agree more! Word!
I think this "othering" would not be necessary if they REALLY were so special and different. I know a few high rate escorts and also lower rate escorts and none of them looks at each other different. You don`t need to portray your "superiority" if you really are good. It`s a method of people who lack self esteem and need to convince themselves at first :-).


In any professional context, be it a law firm, or a marketing place, or a psychotherapy office, it is an absolute NO GO and shows lack of professionalism if you point out your superiority on behalf of looking down at others in the same profession. In Europe people get fired if they do so, or they don`t get hired.

Same goes for people , who leave work and then tell how bad it was a the place they worked. Not "good". So, given ethical work principles the "superiority" complex in metaphors on someones page is already sufficient to show or proof their lack of class or skills. It`s a complete no go in any professional context. Specially if it follows the clear intent to portray this superiority.

[VIP Mya Michelle]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

I concur with what you said. Some seems to be about branding certain stereotypes, which also explains why certain phrases or depictions are almost on any escort page. It`s a picture, or an impression. But it has nothing to do with reality. In reality there is no difference between a so called HDH and someone that has different rates. It`s the depiction and the stereotype that might vary. But more often than not , it not even doesn`t. Starts when you look at the effort people make for their home pages. I mostly don`t see HDHs doing a far better jobs at these realms.
ANd I think this is where the depiction already starts. And the deceiving.

I can not understand how girls charging over 250 an hour and dont even have a website... their free & easy to set up... and i think they defintley give you a good look. Of course some of us girls have to work WAY harder than others to make guys look at us and consider us. Not all the girls on this board can just sit on their ass and watch the appointment requests pour in lol.... But maybe in another life! HA

Plus some of us are alot more savvy no matter what we charge, And simply understand this business, asnd all the ways you can show clientel that you are on your business, and do CARE ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS MORE THAN THE NEXT GIRL (and that sentence i think sums up "HDH") cause we all already know, some girls could give a damn how your session goes lol ... I say also if you can't figure out how to use a computer make profiles and post ad's , youre in the wrong buisness.

So i suppose i will give a little break down on what i think makes me a more Upscale provider.

1. Safe & Confidential (i have safe surroundings and all of my workings are top secret only viewed by me)
2. Superb Skills BCD ( i have never met a man i could not arouse)
3. Excellent TCB (i have very fluent communication skills through various devices)
4. Spectacular website (which i made all by myself)
5. My Looks ( I work out, i am always dolled up for clients, full make up and hair always down and perfect)
6. I always dress to impress (i hear of girls showing up in sweat pants and pajamas)
7. I am always on time! (no explanation to how important that can be in all walks of life!)
8. I am very cooperative when it comes to refrences
9. I provide a comfortable enviorment, fully furnished, well decorated
10. I take very good care and consideration of all my clients, i give my best each and every time no matter what!

I could probably think of more but i will end it herre lol

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

1. Safe & Confidential (i have safe surroundings and all of my workings are top secret only viewed by me)

I never really understood, how people can live and work in the same apartment. Or take clients that live in the same area they do. In the cities I live I either don`t work or I only take clients that are foreigners and travel. That is what I consider discreet, because anything else spreads like wildfire and is a problem for clients and yourself.

[Guest121613]

Mya,

I like the list, and cannot argue with any one point. I think of my favorite provider, and I would certainly call her upscale. This is what makes her a cut above:

1) the thought she puts into each session, meaning doing something a little different or new with me each time
2) has a classy incall location
3) great website with great visuals
4) never a rushed session, meaning, a nervousness when the time to finish is near, (as though someone else is scheduled in the next 20 minutes)
5) remembers our discussions and what we did in other sessions, and can continue a conversation
6) she deeply cares that I have a great session, and learns my likes and dislikes
7) adapts to my intensity, meaning, seems to know if I am happy with one pop and then chat, or when I want a marathon session