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Old 11-18-2012, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default The 2016 Republican Disaster is Already Taking Shape

Seriously? Campaigning already? Marco Rubio is in Iowa touting himself as the future of the Republican Party. Just what they need. Another Tea Party phony who supports the Patriot Act, the NDAA and bombing everybody. And expect the usual tax cuts for the rich, instead of eliminating the tax code and instituting one that doesn't promote class warfare. It's the same old BS we've just been through. Here's the article:

As the Republican Party regroups after Mitt Romney’s defeat, the message Saturday night at Iowa Republican Gov. Terry Branstad’s birthday fundraiser was “turn the page” and “look to the future” — and what that future apparently holds is Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, the event’s featured speaker.

Rubio was invited to speak at the event around Sept. 1, Branstad told The Daily Caller, and had Romney won, the atmosphere might have been a bit different.

But only 11 days after voters went to the polls and Republicans came up short, Rubio was speaking to a crowd that had trained its sights squarely on 2016.

In his speech, Rubio weaved together the personal and the economic. He discussed the importance of a stable family life to a stable economy, and how critical the success of the middle class is not just to the country’s financial situation, but also to its place in the world. American exceptionalism, Rubio said, is important to every nation, not just the United States.

“The way to turn our economy around is not by making rich people poorer; it’s by making poor people richer,” Rubio said.

The Florida senator talked about the need to improve the country’s immigration system and develop a path to citizenship for some illegal immigrants. He also emphasized the importance of education reform, which he said is necessary to ensure that future generations are competitive in the global economy.

“People understand that we need to do something to address those issues, and they want to do that in a reasonable and responsible way,” Rubio told the crowd.

Rubio also talked about his personal history. He reminded attendees that his parents immigrated to the United States and gave him the opportunity to attend college and become a senator.

It’s that personal story that has helped lead several Iowa Republicans to declare Rubio “the future” of the Republican Party.

“I just think he’s the future,” Branstad told TheDC. “He’s the kind of leadership that we need, and I think he’s a very intelligent, articulate, and he is a great example of the American dream, and that’s exactly what we have to make available for more and more people.”

“I just thought, you know, it’s a great way to kind of turn the page, look to the future, and he’s somebody that I think is going to be a real leader for this country in the future,” Branstad said, explaining why he had invited Rubio to keynote his birthday party fundraiser.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/18/ru...#ixzz2CdrBxwYh
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:33 PM   #2
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Yes, but he's better than Romney. He's not anti-immigrant (at least on the surface) and as far as I know, he's not a virulent homophobe. OF course, those two things make it highly unlikely that he can win the Republican nomination.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:38 AM   #3
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COG, you know better than that. Romney was never the Tea Party candidate. He was second or third choice among the lot.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:18 AM   #4
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COG, you know better than that. Romney was never the Tea Party candidate. He was second or third choice among the lot.

Yea you wanted to nominate Michelle Bachman. She barely won reelection in her own district!

God please nominate her! You think I forget your stuppid political record. I told you that Romney was going to get beat like a mule. He was the John Kerry of the GOP. He did not relate to the common folk. He was a flip flopper. Way way worse than Kerry. Anyway you wouldn't listen....
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:37 AM   #5
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Palin-Bachman...scary....
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:46 AM   #6
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The GOP really needs to rethink their entire strategy instead of just putting up another dummy with the same agenda, but with a different twist.

Haven't these guys learned anything after losing two elections in a row?

. . . I mean besides putting buffoonish Clint Eastwood up on stage and talking to an empty chair?

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Old 11-19-2012, 08:07 AM   #7
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Being against automatic amnesty, tighter border security, immigration enforcement, worker-visas, and generally having a sensible immigration policy that is ENFORCED, isn't being anti-immigrant as claimed by TTH and the other loons on this board !

And any immigration reform must put border security and enforcement above any amnesty deal....enforcement before reform.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:29 AM   #8
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You are aware this current admin has deported more illegals than any other one...
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:50 PM   #9
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What makes you think that the "Get Out of my Pants" will wait all of the way to 2016 when the 2014 midterms will look so appealing to trot out their "revised and retooled" horsesh*t?
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:03 PM   #10
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I expect the House to "trend" back to the Democrats in 2014, where it will stay until we take COG and Marshall off ignore...
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Speaking of Marco Rubio, it might also turn out to be the case that he'll have some trouble explaining away this little gem:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...age-of-planet/
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:04 PM   #12
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I have very educated friends who shockingly tell me they do not believe in evolution.

When I ask why not, they say well, because it's not in the Bible.

When I counter with the geological evidence, they just tune me out.

Personally, I believe that people need to keep an open mind, but too many still cling to antiquated beliefs!

. . . The Republican Party seems to be in that same frame of mind.
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And I wonder if Rubio's white conservative church-going Christian supporters will be happy his favorite rap song is N.W.A.'s Straight Outta Compton. I'm sure he doesn't even know what N.W.A. stands for but he probably thought it would give him some street cred. Next thing you'll have 50-Cent as the GOP's nominee.
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I can only dream of a 2016 Rubio/Bachman (or vice versa) ticket with a public lick and a promise to Governor Quitter that she will be the Secretary of State.
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It is unfortunate that the Republicans cannot understand what their party needs to win.
"Conservatives" are only a part of the party and not all of the TEA party people are not "Conservative".
The fact as I see it it is that most TEA party people are more libertarian than "Conservative".


Until Republicans, Libertarians, Independents or anyone that isnt a Democrat comes to the realization that they are not going to make wholesale changes, or should I say campaign on wholesale changes, and win elections as a party.

The communists and socialists did not take over the Democrats and make all of the socialistic changes in one election cycle. It has taken almost a hundred years to bring us to this point.They have done this so stealthily that the majority of Democrats don't even know they are controlled by the communists and socialist and think they are still Democrats. Bigtex is a classic example of somebody that fought communism yet embraces it in his blind support of the Democratic party.The proof is easy: Who was the Communist Party candidate for President in 2008 and 2012 and who was the candidate for the Socialist Party in 2008 and 2012. I will give you a hint.....one answer will cover all the questions.

What is really sad is that we have at least on whole generation and maybe tow that have been brought up under the control of the socialist program of our education system.

I just don't think that there is any possibility that this nation is going to turn 180 degrees in an election cycle or it would have happened in the last one. We should set our long term goals much like the communists and socialist did and then work in the same fashion and turn it a few degrees at a time until we are back on the path of prosperity but not losing sight of the goals and failing to follow through.
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