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10-10-2012, 02:16 PM
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So what have we learned in the last 30 days?
On Septemeber 11, 2012 crowds gathered outside the US embassy in Cairo, Egypt. Ambassador Hayward released an apology for the content of a movie that no one has watched around noon. In the evening the crowd rushed the embassy, climbed the walls (onto US territory), and burned the US flag. Why was the apology released before a suggestion of violence (the official story)? Did the state department know of specific threats of violence? It seems now that they did then.
Hundreds of miles away at Beghazi, Libya it was still and silent outside the US Consulate. The ambassador was away from the protected embassy in Tripoli on the 11th of September for reasons not yet known. We know that the consulate had come up under a series of attacks previous to this day. We know that the ambassador was concerned with security and had requested additional security. He was told NO but the White House through the state department. As darkness fell cars and trucks started to arrive and disgouged heavily armed men outside the consulate. The consulate was not up to official standards with no setback from the street, no secured gates, and no armored glass on the windows. Someone in the state department signed off on these waivers but that person is yet to be known.
An attack began with RPGs, mortars, and heavy weapons. The ambassador was taken to a safe house some distance away. Safe is a poor word to describe the position as the house came under directed mortar fire shortly after the ambassador's arrival. Two former navy seals stepped from their duties as civilian protectors of information and became bodyguards to the ambassador. This cost them their lives. The ambassador's body showed up at a hospital but we don't know how or by whom. According to the official story he died of his injuries shortly after arriving.
24 hours later the White House and State Department were informed that this was probably a terrorist attack. Islamic operatives were photographed on the scene. The White House made a public statement that the cause of the violence was a film. A film that no one had watched. Riots broke out in 22 different countries and other US embassies invaded. The White House maintained that the film was the cause though they knew it was terrorism on US soil. Four days later UN ambassador went on television and maintained the story that the film was the cause of the riots and one riot had gotten out of control resulting in the death of our embassador. This was a lie.
Taxpayer money was spent in Pakistan to run a commercial of Obama and Hillary apologizing for free speech rights in the US. Obama went forth and made it known that slandering the "holy prophet of Islam" was a terrible thing that he had no control over but he would like to have the power to stop the slander. He also said that he would help to make sure that anyone who slandered Mohammed would not rule the world.
We have learned that a number of lies were told to the US people by Barack Obama, Robert Gibbs (campaign communication, Jay Carney (White House communications), Susan Rice (UN Ambassador), and Hillary Clinton (Secretary of State). The White House threw an independent film maker under the bus arresting him in the middle of the night. Held without bail by federal authorities on a parole violation??? The White House delayed occupying the embassy that held classified documents but was open to journalist (and anyone else) to just walk in a pick up journals. It took three weeks for the FBI to be employed during which time the White House avoided questions by citing the "ongoing" investigation. The White House withheld information of earlier attacks on the same compound in Benghazi and its refusal to increase security.
Draw your own conclusions.
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10-10-2012, 02:57 PM
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I see your point.
wear a hat maybe your students wont notice
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10-10-2012, 03:58 PM
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Obama lied. Plain and simple. And he lied to save his own ass. The man does not deserve to be President. He's an embarrassment, and now we have ambassadors dying because of his refusal to face facts.
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10-10-2012, 04:02 PM
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Obama lied. Plain and simple. And he lied to save his own ass. The man does not deserve to be President. He's an embarrassment, and now we have ambassadors dying because of his refusal to face facts.
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lied about what pray tell?
the film that set off the rage all over the muslim world ?
the film was the spark that set off the existing "gasoline can" the mid east really is. The entire secnario had the snowball effect starting with the extremist groups and ramped up to the masses.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/201...eo_291107.html
yeah yeah yeah, I know exactly what the article says ...
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10-10-2012, 05:15 PM
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Obama lied. Plain and simple. And he lied to save his own ass. The man does not deserve to be President. He's an embarrassment, and now we have ambassadors dying because of his refusal to face facts.
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But a dumbfuck like you sees moral equivalency with Romney who is a good and moral man, even if his underwear is funny......
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10-10-2012, 06:04 PM
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And a dumbfuck like you thinks they are radically different, when they are not.
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10-10-2012, 06:59 PM
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Was a sneaky republican ploy cut funding for security,so when a tragedy occurs they can trash the other side...
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10-10-2012, 10:25 PM
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lied about what pray tell?
the film that set off the rage all over the muslim world ?
the film was the spark that set off the existing "gasoline can" the mid east really is. The entire secnario had the snowball effect starting with the extremist groups and ramped up to the masses.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/201...eo_291107.html
yeah yeah yeah, I know exactly what the article says ...
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did you even read JD's post? those are the FACTS
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10-11-2012, 12:17 AM
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Obama lied about a movie causing all of this when we know that the White House was informed one day after the event that it was a terrorist attack. Of course, Barry might have missed that security brief and the ones for a week afterward. He was in Las Vegas among other places. You know... the life of a celebrity.
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10-11-2012, 12:46 AM
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FACTS? Not to be confused with TRUTH?
Fucking idiots. Might I suggest "My Pet Goat."
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10-11-2012, 12:58 AM
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Your guy, Obama, has been lying about this for weeks. Admit it, Assup. It's not even open for debate. He lied. An ambassador and three others die, and all Obama can do is worry about how it will reflect on his legacy and re-election.
Obama is a sociopath and a liar. There's no denying it now, Assup.
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10-11-2012, 01:16 AM
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Was a sneaky republican ploy cut funding for security,so when a tragedy occurs they can trash the other side...
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Bullshit, odumbo did, so his pathetic followers can have their odumbo phones, lazy ass cocksuckers
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10-11-2012, 07:03 AM
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Was a sneaky republican ploy cut funding for security,so when a tragedy occurs they can trash the other side...
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Here are several factual details you are willfully overlooking, Ekim the Inbred.
NO MARINES FOR LIBYAN AMBASSADOR, FULL SECURITY DETAIL FOR VALERIE JARRETT VACATION
Ambassador Chris Stevens did not have a Marine detail in Benghazi, Libya. But White House Senior Advisor and Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett has a full Secret Service detail on vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, according to Democratic pollster Pat Caddell.
That’s the pathetic foreign policy of the Obama administration, says Caddell today in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News. “Jarrett seems to have a 24 hour, around the clock detail, with five or six agents full time,” Caddell explains. “The media has been completely uninterested. We don’t provide security for our ambassador in Libya, but she needs a full Secret Service security detail. And nobody thinks there’s anything wrong with this. And nobody in the press will ask. What kind of slavish stoogery are they perpetrating here?
“This country has reached the point of absurdity. There are people dead because we don’t have security details for them. But she’s privileged to have a full Secret Service detail on vacation?”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...libyan-embassy
Email Shows State Department Rejecting Request of Security Team at US Embassy in Libya
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...assy-in-libya/
"Eric Nordstrom, the regional security officer in Libya, told the committee that Deputy Assistant Secretary Charlene Lamb wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi "artificially low." Nordstrom said she generally believed that extra security was unnecessary because there was a residential safe haven to fall back on in an emergency, according to the summary.
She thought the "best course of action was to assign three agents" to the Benghazi post, the summary quoted Nordstrom as saying."
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ost/?hpt=po_c2
“[White House Senior Advisor and Odumbo confidante Valerie] Jarrett seems to have a 24 hour, around the clock detail, with five or six agents full time,” said Pat Caddell.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...libyan-embassy
"We have 15,000 (security contractors) in Iraq, and we have a hard time having more than two dozen in Libya," Representative Chaffetz (R) said. "It doesn't seem to balance itself out right."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89815N20121009
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10-11-2012, 07:48 AM
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you want to collect your facts so you can distort them later..Mark Twain
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10-11-2012, 07:57 AM
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you want to collect your facts so you can distort them later..Mark Twain
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Despite your very "unclever" use of a Mark Twain quote, Ekim the Inbred, it remains that Lamb is on record for reducing Libyan embassy security to "artificially low" levels for political -- not fiscal -- reasons. That decision was criminal.
"Eric Nordstrom, the regional security officer in Libya, told the committee that Deputy Assistant Secretary Charlene Lamb wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi "artificially low." Nordstrom said she generally believed that extra security was unnecessary because there was a residential safe haven to fall back on in an emergency, according to the summary.
She thought the "best course of action was to assign three agents" to the Benghazi post, the summary quoted Nordstrom as saying."
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ost/?hpt=po_c2
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