Craiglist killer commits suicide....

[Baloney Pony]

Originally Posted by sixxbach

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100815/...gslist_killing

sixx

Howdy, Folks!


Hmm...shouldn't the title to this thread read, "Suspected Craiglist killer commits suicide....?"


Or, "Alleged Craiglist killer commits suicide....?"


Or, something to that effect?

Last time I checked in this country, it was presumed innocent until proven guilty.

That particular concept within law is a *very* good one, IMHO.

[shaft.drive]

Originally Posted by luvmachine.jones88

Any man who lays their hands on a woman in a manner to cause extreme harm deserves to die.

Only on a woman??

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Baloney Pony

Howdy, Folks!


Hmm...shouldn't the title to this thread read, "Suspected Craiglist killer commits suicide....?"


Or, "Alleged Craiglist killer commits suicide....?"


Or, something to that effect?

Last time I checked in this country, it was presumed innocent until proven guilty.

That particular concept within law is a *very* good one, IMHO.

Oopps sorry BP... I was simply presenting the link. Calm down there....

sixx

[Baloney Pony]

Originally Posted by sixxbach

Oopps sorry BP... I was simply presenting the link. Calm down there....

sixx

Howdy, Folks!


Heh - totally calm, here.

Oh, from that link - here's the title of the article:

"Craigslist killing suspect dead in Mass. suicide"(emphasis is mine)



Again - I love the "presumed innocent until proven guilty" concept.


Hopefully no one here will ever be up in front of twelve of their peers, but if one was - say, on a prostitution charge - one will really be thankful our court system isn't, "Sentence first - verdict afterwards."

Something to think about...

[Fancyinheels]

I wasn't making fun of his death, although black humor is a defense mechanism of the human psyche. But I meant what I said about saving society the trouble. The court system is a bowl of bogged-down pudding and takes forever to slog through, and a long, drawn-out trial and subsequent appeals of an almost-certain guilty verdict would put the families of the murdered girls through Hell over and over and over again, not to mention dragging up every "smutty" deed the victims ever did to the further harassment of their families. Btw, I think there's a wee bit of difference between me showing up for a sneeze-and-its-over hearing in front of a judge for being a "hooker" and enduring my 15 minutes of infamy and a man being tried for mass murder in the center of a media bullseye.

Perhaps God in his mercy stepped into the man's cell in one form or another and judgment was passed. No, we shouldn't rejoice, but sweating even a drop of concern over this man doesn't seem appropriate, either.

[rekcaSxT]

Whispers, I agree with you on a lot of things, but this isn't one.

I for one think this world is a better place without that piece of shit still around. Just like I think the world is a better place without Hitler, Jerry Fallwell, Jim Jones, and Dr. Phil. (yeah I know he is still alive dammit.... not you dammit)

[TaylorMaiden29]

I don't see the board rejoicing of another ones death, but more of a celebration of nature's fine way of elimination of the weaker species to allow the species as a whole to grow stronger , or in other words: a celebration of nature's survival of the fittest!

And another one bites the dust, and another one bites the dust, and another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust, yea, yea!

Originally Posted by Whispers

Truly Amazing......

I understand and support the need for a death penalty for certain crimes although I believe a life spent in solitary confinement in a maximum security prison to be more of a punishment.......


What I do not understand or support are people celebrating or rejoicing at the death of another human being.

Whether he committed suicide or not he had not been convicted and even if he was guilty is it really something to laugh and make jokes about?

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Perhaps God in his mercy stepped into the man's cell in one form or another and judgment was passed.

I'm not sure what religion supports the concept of suicide but I doubt "God" had anything to do with it.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by rekcaSxT

Whispers, I agree with you on a lot of things, but this isn't one.

I for one think this world is a better place without that piece of shit still around. Just like I think the world is a better place without Hitler, Jerry Fallwell, Jim Jones, and Dr. Phil. (yeah I know he is still alive dammit.... not you dammit)

If the man was guilty...... as some have pointed out his crimes were simply alleged at the time....... then Yes... society is better off with him no longer participating in it.....

But I do believe in Due Process.....

Should the lady in Iran/Iraq? (not sure where) be stoned to death as sentenced ?...... will the same people here celebrating the death of this man be silent regarding those in that country that celebrate the death of someone that broke a law they tend to believe in?

[shaft.drive]

The US is one of the only countries in the "developed world" which still practices capital punishment AND has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. Look at the map below for countries that practice the death penalty. The US is the same color as some of the more totalitarian and brutal regimes.



95 have abolished it.
9 retain it for crimes committed in exceptional circumstances (such as in time of war).
35 permit its use for ordinary crimes, but have not used it for at least 10 years and are believed to have a policy or established practice of not carrying out executions or is under a moratorium

if you think the prosecutor really cares for the truth to come out, you are sadly mistaken. They just want to win a case, like a notch on your rifle barrel after a kill.

How many of you remember Illinois - where a study showed innocent people had mistakenly been put to death?

In January 2000, Governor George Ryan of Illinois imposed a moratorium on the imposition of the death penalty in Illinois. In reviewing death penalty cases since 1977, he determined that 13 death row inmates in the state had been cleared of murder charges, compared to 12 who had been put to death. Some of the 13 inmates were taken off death row after DNA evidence exonerated them; the cases of others collapsed after new trials were ordered by appellate courts. "There is a flaw in the system, without question, and it needs to be studied", Ryan said. Ironically, the Republican Governor had campaigned in support of the death penalty. Ultimately in January 2003, Governor Ryan commuted all death sentences to prison terms of life or less

[glad_he_ate_her]

I'm not gonna be popular for saying this, but given that this guy is not clearly a total scumbag, is it possible that he may not really be the predator that prima facae circumstances suggest?

Do we really know what led to the homicide? Do we know that he set out to kill someone? Is it possible that she tried to rip him off, or something else happened?

[shaft.drive]

The day he committed suicide was going to be the first anniversary of his planned wedding to his fiance. He scrawled her name in blood on the wall.

Everyone listens to TV or reads the news and is so f * * * * * * sure that someone deserves to die.
Even due process is not a guarantee that the conviction is based on truth.

What is in us that is so spiteful that makes it okay to take life I wonder...and to feel that his suicide should be celebrated is sick. However much of a scumbag the dead person may be, feeling sorry is more humane.

C'mon people, Jesus simply said "thy sins are forgiven" Unconditionally

[harkontume]

Blah, Blah, Blah. bbbbblah, bu blah bah.

blah... God, Capital Punishment (Maps for Gods Sake!), mans inhumanity to man, social Darwanism, dogs and cats living together!

The "alleged" Rat Bastard is "presumed" dead in a "suspected suicide"!

How does this make me horny?

It doesn't!

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by shaft.drive

...What is in us that is so spiteful that makes it okay to take life I wonder...and to feel that his suicide should be celebrated is sick. However much of a scumbag the dead person may be, feeling sorry is more humane.

C'mon people, Jesus simply said "thy sins are forgiven" Unconditionally

Jesus may have been the forgiving type, but bear in mind that he was allegedly the son of a God who killed off 99.999% of the world's population in Noah's Flood for their "wickedness," and smote a passel of Egyptian soldiers, many just doing their jobs as ordered by the Pharoah, for chasing the Israelites through the Red Sea after sending a plague to kill off all of Egypt's firstborn sons. Sounds a wee bit spiteful to me. The pendulum seems to swing heavily toward accounts of divine vengeance rather than clemency, Armageddon being the big swat we're all looking forward to. Where do we get our vindictive streak from? The Bible! The whole Christian concept of Hell is eternal punishment, so where's the mercy in that?

Don't get the fallen Catholic schoolgirl in me started on the iniquities of religion. That's why I have 6 chihuahuas. "Dog" spelled backward is "God," ya know. I have a pantheon who expect blind devotion in the Temple of Furry Faith.

[Fancyinheels]

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program of porn and pussy, please.