PAYSTUBS ANYONE??

[Krista78]

OK LADIES...SINCE I AM AWARE OF THE "PROOF OF INCOME" SITUATION, I AM WILLING TO OFFER MY SERVICES THROUGH MY BUSINESS.

$150 GETS YOU 2 PAY STUBS

$250 GETS YOU 2 STUBS AND A W2

$350 GETS YOU A W2, 1099 AND 3 STUBS

CALL ME ASAP AND LETS GET YOU PROOF OF INCOME

KRISTA * WAITIN4U70@GMAIL.COM OR 972*207*0028

[Gotyour6]

Can we say Fraud?

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Horrible idea. You and any woman who pays you for fraudulent pay stubs would be leaving yourself wide open for a variety of serious criminal charges.

I honestly find it baffling how many women and men for that matter seem to think that a hooker is unable to establish income or pay taxes.

Millions of Americans are self employed, providing a wide variety of services independently for income. A consultant is no different from a provider. All a woman needs to do is open a checking account, make regular deposits, and in doing so establish an income. It is really that simple. Then pay taxes on all visible income. The IRS doesn't care how you make your money. They just want their cut.

[leahluvsmart]

I agree. Just use the bank. Its not safe to use the fakes plus if you establish your own proof of income though a bank it will benefit you over time instead of once. Plus it would not cost you anything to open an account and your money is safer in the bank anyway.

[rooter642510]

The key word is visble income !!! One for the IRS and 3 for my pockets !!! Cash has away of not always making it to the bank account for tax puposes..

[Sugar_Daddy]

IRS Intensifies National Crackdown on Identity Theft; Part of Wider Effort to Protect Taxpayers, Prevent Refund Fraud

[rochlilspinner]

Not good

[Krista78]

just so you people know..I am not nor have I ever been a damn criminal. I own a sole proprietorship (massage therapy as I am licensed) I am trying to open a studio. In the meantime as long as I put my employees down as contract workers and provide them with a 1099, I can put down whomever I choose as my employee legally. I have had my umbrella name and Entity name for over a year along with my EIN. So, I would appreciate your comments kept to the facts that obviously none of you are aware of.

[newalhobbyist]

Ms. Krista... With all due respect... and I am not a licensed professional in these matters. However, there are some concerns I would have if a friend has made the representations that you have.

Your posts strongly suggest that you are selling 1099s/W-4s/pay stubs that are created as a matter of fiction, NOT as required documents arising out of normal scope of your business. I am nobody but my spidey sense is that this could get everyone concerned in deep criminal legal trouble.

I think that one should NOT mix employment and contract work in ANY way, much less as cavalierly as you have done. I think any pay stub or W-4 reflecting any withholdings would require that those withholdings be forward to the correct authority in a timely fashion.

I think any pay stub should be associated with a valid check issued as part of the normal course of business. I think that you should have W-4s and I-9s properly executed on file for anyone before they start employment and definitely before they are issued a pay stub (ie, an emploment paycheck stub). I think their W-2s should properly reflect any payments, withholdings, etc as a scope of their normal employment.

I think it is against the law to keep inaccurate business records. I do not think you can legally sell these documents. I think they should be produced as part of the normal scope of business and accurately represent what has already occurred. I do not think they should be produced as part of a business of retroactively creating arrangements out of whole cloth. I do not think you can charge for these documents; you are required to produced them when appropriate.

I also think that you might need to report the fees for these documents as income.

I think that having employees or subcontractors be the sole customer for the work that they do and no substantial work done for the customer (providing paperwork does NOT count) is not the best of ideas.I think ONE SHOULD NEVER PUT EMPLOYEES DOWN AS SUBCONTRACTORS. The IRS and employment lawyers would love for you to do that; They could then eat your lunch. And breakfast. And dinner. And feed you to the hienas.

Actually, you do not need to provide a 1099 to a contractor UNLESS the amount paid exceeds a certain amount.

Of course, I could be wrong. I just hope you do not find out that I got lucky and am in any way right. With all due respect, I am very happy you are in Texas and I am in Alabama. I would not want to be anywhere near this if the wrong people start looking at things.

Of course, as you have noted, I am nobody. I know nothing. If any investigator asks me about this, I will repeat this: "I know NOTHING!! NOTHING!

MODS: I have trouble with hard returns in my posts. Please replace each "#" with two hard returns.

[newalhobbyist]

I just want to make sure everyone understand that I know NOTHING about this. If you are a wonderful government bureaucrat with investigative powers, first, Thank You! for your service, second, I know NOTHING and third, I know NOTHING. I can not even remember my name or what day it is. And yes, I should probably go see a doctor. Thank you for the suggestion. All I know is that I appreciate everything you do for the public interest.

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by Krista76

just so you people know..I am not nor have I ever been a damn criminal. I own a sole proprietorship (massage therapy as I am licensed) I am trying to open a studio. In the meantime as long as I put my employees down as contract workers and provide them with a 1099, I can put down whomever I choose as my employee legally. I have had my umbrella name and Entity name for over a year along with my EIN. So, I would appreciate your comments kept to the facts that obviously none of you are aware of.

Um, some of us are plenty aware, particularly those who work with business finances and taxes, and you obviously are NOT aware as you CANNOT legally put down anyone you please as your employee if they DON'T actually work for you. You also don't understand the intent of the 1099 or you would not be labeling such persons as "employees" to begin with. Stop mincing words, dear girl. What you are doing is playing with fire, and so is anyone who takes advantage of your offer.

No one is accusing you of being a criminal, Krista, but trying to PREVENT you from being tossed in with the felons. Normally, I'm not this vehement about anything other ladies do, live and let live, consenting adults and all that, but sorry, this is SUCH a bad idea! Don't you realize that one thorough audit of your records by IRS specialists will have you in deep dooky? They can and WILL track every inconsistency down. (Sole proprietorship with "employees" in other states is a big, smelly red sock to the tax dogs.) They will either get you for false documentation or, as newalhobbyist pointed out, for not reporting income produced from your "subcontractors." They will then start rooting for THEIR records to make sure that any federal and applicable state taxes have been paid by these other people who "worked" for you, and then THEY will be in trouble. It'll be the domino effect in action.

Seriously, don't expect us to keep quiet if we see a destructive blazing fire that could be prevented. Do what you want, but OTHER ladies not as cognizant of tax law (and how mean and powerful the IRS really, REALLY is) need to be warned so they won't get burned.

(Not to mention that every lady who needs these fake stubs/forms will have to trust someone whom they know nothing about and who can disappear at will with their identity, home address, and Social Security number. That would be a "no way in Hell" for me.)

[newalhobbyist]

I hate ECCIE. A hot redhead says it better than I do. And she wears heels better than I do. Admittedly, not hard to do as I have never worn heels but still... just saying...

[Guest020813-03]

No one needs a 1099 from anyone, anyone can file a 1099 on their own and file it for themselves. Dumb idea.... Some people are just dummies... I've been filing 1099 for 9 years.

[Gotyour6]

Originally Posted by Krista76

just so you people know..I am not nor have I ever been a damn criminal. I own a sole proprietorship (massage therapy as I am licensed) I am trying to open a studio. In the meantime as long as I put my employees down as contract workers and provide them with a 1099, I can put down whomever I choose as my employee legally. I have had my umbrella name and Entity name for over a year along with my EIN. So, I would appreciate your comments kept to the facts that obviously none of you are aware of.

You offered something like this you just turned yourself into one.
Anyone that takes you up on this will be one as well.
They will get caught because it is one of the top frauds they look for in a weak economy. The States as well as the Federal government are looking for this stuff. They are hurting for money as well.

Not t mention all I need is to put this information into unemployment and them contact you and ask why they don't have you down as having insurance. Then the State and Feds roll in on your ass looking for paperwork.

You are aware that people create these and then go to H and R block and get instant refunds right?

You are aware that Illegal Immigrants use these as well right?

You do know that once that fictitious document leaves your hands they can do what they want with this right? Anything from getting an apartment to getting a loan, to getting a refund. They can give you some ones SS number along with a name, go to HR block and file under that name and get a refund. Then it goes back to you.

Get your affairs in order and grab a toothbrush. Your room will be ready.

[Sugar_Daddy]

Fraud by definition is the intent to deceive. If you are offering pay stubs, W-2’s or 1099’s for $$$ to prove income for someone that did not work for you would be a fraud. You are intending to deceive someone for a fee. Generally the only reason to claim income that you didn’t earn is to defraud a government program. While I am sure you a great massage therapist, I doubt very much you understand the complexities of business law, employees vs. independent contractors and the penalties for committing fraud.

Tennessee Woman Sentenced for Check Fraud Scheme and International Money Laundering

On November 17, 2011, in Knoxville, Tenn., Carolyn Greer, a.k.a. Carolyn Keene, of Knoxville, Tenn., was sentenced to 21 months in prison, three years of supervised release and ordered to pay restitution of $62,562 for mail fraud and international money laundering. According to court documents, Greer admitted that she perpetrated a scheme to defraud numerous individuals by placing the names of individuals on fictitious checks, sending those fictitious checks to the individuals by commercial interstate carrier, creating the false pretense that the fictitious checks were in fact valid, and then receiving, by Western Union and MoneyGram, the proceeds of the fictitious check after the recipient of the fictitious check cashed the fictitious check at a financial institution. Greer further admitted that she wired a portion of the money she received to Nigeria to promote her scheme to defraud.

How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?

If You…
Then
And
… suspect or know of an individual or a business that is not complying with the tax laws on issues such as
· False Exemptions or Deductions
· Kickbacks
· False/Altered Document
· Failure to Pay Tax
· Unreported Income
· Organized Crime
· Failure to Withhold



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