TAKE NOTICE - Hobbyist Creedo

[TheDogger]

Thanks everyone for spending the time posting on this thread as well as voting.

Current tally as of this writing:

National 29 for 5 against
Houston 37 for 31 against
Dallas 35 for 9 against
San Antonio 38 for 5 against
Austion 16 for 17 against

For a total of: 155 for 67 against.

Fascinating results. Much of the disparity comes from some of vigorous and vitriolic responses in the Houston and Austin forums lambasting even asking the question. This at first swayed the early results nearly 2-1 against but as the detractors slowly silenced, the “for’s” became much less intimidated.

Now to respond to some of the remarkable criticism.

“The poll is poorly written, divisive and trick.”
No, I am not a professional pollster but I did word it in the exact wording I thought would provide the greatest amount of conversation and discussion. I provided both the circumstances of the poll via a thread link (significant actions of a hobbyist in Houston) and specific perspectives required: “As a Hobbyist considering what is going on in Houston….” If that pisses you off. Sorry.

“Divisive”
You betcha. Either you do or you don’t. You don’t…go ahead a vote and say so but your anger is terribly misplaced. This was to challenge us all into understanding whether we lead with our Respect Chins or not. If you do, which seems like the majority, you vote and stay quiet. Those that don’t agree tend to scream and holler like a guilty person does screaming their innocence. Quite telling.

“Trick”
Wha???? Its clearly stated, yes or no. Whatever. Define it yourself and vote. Dislike it, don’t understand it and leave. Take it easy….its just a poll on a hobby site.

“You’re a White Knight”
Again…wha? A White Knight is an excuser to a woman provider who is in the wrong. Clearly that is not the case here and no….I make no excuses for the guilty.

“Fuck off Dogger”
Nice one…thanks Budman.

“Self glorifying to get Extra’s from Providers”
Bullshit. I only see a few providers as it is. With all of them, the relationships started provider/client then friends now lovers. I believe in quality not quantity. Some of the most remarkable people I’ve ever met have been providers and they deserve our respect not our disdain as so many hobbyists believe is their place. Simply pisses me off. Society has got their status in the social chain completely upside down.

“Did it to defend women without regard to whether they deserve it or not.”
Everyone deserves some modicum of respect, period. Even the crack ho’s abusing their kids deserve respect by not condemning them by walking away allowing to continue but correcting the problem and protecting the kids through intervention through all the legal means built into our society and providing resources for the Mom to get the medical help she needs. That’s what makes us Americans.

I simply created this poll as a reaction to the amazing amount of support and excusing of a horrendous action done by a hobbyist in Houston and then self glorified himself in the Co-Ed section, where the thread was subsequently moved to the Mens Forum, and then received and UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT of accolades and high fives for all his predation and molestation. His words not mine.

UnFuckingBelievable.

I did this poll not for women, I did it for MEN and for ECCIE saying:

“NO – This world and this entire site is not filled with complete animals and disrespectful women haters.”

Men that I know and respect not only want nothing to do with that but stand up and say “Fuck that…not in my backyard!”

And if that pisses you off…well, I don’t fucking care. The numbers say the same.

[dearhunter]

Thanck you yet again for revealing the fucktards among us.

[dearhunter]

Fuck the women....I'm just saying.

[Wayward]

So basically about 1% of the members cared enough to vote. That is a statement.

[DEAR_JOHN]

dogger made his long posting to verify that in his mind he 'won'. He didn't 'win' shit. Justify your results in your own mind, but I'm not buying it.

I still stand by my feelings......the key word being 'every' as in 'every circumstance'. No way, no how.
I consider myself to be a 'gentleman', but I also won't be any providers bitch. There are some stand up providers and stand up women, but there are also some devious bitches that will take you for everything they can. There are also some devious asshole men, so it is not gender specific about respecting.

I would venture to guess that I respect 95% of the providers I have known (either BCD or not) through the years, but it would be a stretch to think that in 'every' circumstance they are right.

[Guest032414-2]

Originally Posted by Wayward

So basically about 1% of the members cared enough to vote. That is a statement.

More of a statement than the poll results.

[pyramider]

Respect is earned.

I will act respectfully until I determine that its not warranted.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by TheDogger

Thanks everyone for spending the time posting on this thread as well as voting.

Current tally as of this writing:

National 29 for 5 against
Houston 37 for 31 against
Dallas 35 for 9 against
San Antonio 38 for 5 against
Austion 16 for 17 against

For a total of: 155 for 67 against.

Fascinating results. Much of the disparity comes from some of vigorous and vitriolic responses in the Houston and Austin forums lambasting even asking the question. This at first swayed the early results nearly 2-1 against but as the detractors slowly silenced, the “for’s” became much less intimidated.

Now to respond to some of the remarkable criticism.

“The poll is poorly written, divisive and trick.”
No, I am not a professional pollster but I did word it in the exact wording I thought would provide the greatest amount of conversation and discussion. I provided both the circumstances of the poll via a thread link (significant actions of a hobbyist in Houston) and specific perspectives required: “As a Hobbyist considering what is going on in Houston….” If that pisses you off. Sorry.

“Divisive”
You betcha. Either you do or you don’t. You don’t…go ahead a vote and say so but your anger is terribly misplaced. This was to challenge us all into understanding whether we lead with our Respect Chins or not. If you do, which seems like the majority, you vote and stay quiet. Those that don’t agree tend to scream and holler like a guilty person does screaming their innocence. Quite telling.

“Trick”
Wha???? Its clearly stated, yes or no. Whatever. Define it yourself and vote. Dislike it, don’t understand it and leave. Take it easy….its just a poll on a hobby site.

“You’re a White Knight”
Again…wha? A White Knight is an excuser to a woman provider who is in the wrong. Clearly that is not the case here and no….I make no excuses for the guilty.

“Fuck off Dogger”
Nice one…thanks Budman.

“Self glorifying to get Extra’s from Providers”
Bullshit. I only see a few providers as it is. With all of them, the relationships started provider/client then friends now lovers. I believe in quality not quantity. Some of the most remarkable people I’ve ever met have been providers and they deserve our respect not our disdain as so many hobbyists believe is their place. Simply pisses me off. Society has got their status in the social chain completely upside down.

“Did it to defend women without regard to whether they deserve it or not.”
Everyone deserves some modicum of respect, period. Even the crack ho’s abusing their kids deserve respect by not condemning them by walking away allowing to continue but correcting the problem and protecting the kids through intervention through all the legal means built into our society and providing resources for the Mom to get the medical help she needs. That’s what makes us Americans.

I simply created this poll as a reaction to the amazing amount of support and excusing of a horrendous action done by a hobbyist in Houston and then self glorified himself in the Co-Ed section, where the thread was subsequently moved to the Mens Forum, and then received and UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT of accolades and high fives for all his predation and molestation. His words not mine.

UnFuckingBelievable.

I did this poll not for women, I did it for MEN and for ECCIE saying:

“NO – This world and this entire site is not filled with complete animals and disrespectful women haters.”

Men that I know and respect not only want nothing to do with that but stand up and say “Fuck that…not in my backyard!”

And if that pisses you off…well, I don’t fucking care. The numbers say the same.

Your numbers are flawed. If you had taken the time to actually come up with a poll that would have provided useable data you would have something. But you did not. You results are as retarded as your poll.

[Htowner]

You just came out and 'revealed' a poster by name , Monkey Paw, in the Men's Lounge and made a public poll of it ?
It does not matter what the details were, but you did reveal that at least in your opinion, a member has stated negative or drogatory comments about providers .
Is this shit for real?
Are all mods sleeping at this hour?

[Artie Lange]

When you have a big dick like mine, they don't remember if I was nice to them.

[Rand Al'Thor]

This moral high ground is bullshit. The ethical high horse I rode in on trumps your moral horse. Dogger, I condemn you as a moral leach. More than likely, considering the timing of this "poll" quite a few of those who agreed to respect women knew what this poll was about. To those people who agreed, I also condemn you as scum. Moral high ground without the foundation of thought and ethics is bound to crumble, and crumble into a massive pile of shit. Those of you who voted "Agree" to this, since the poll says "I will respect women of all ages and in every circumstance.", these are the women you have agreed to respect:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225846185966
Steals money from old men after coming onto them.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...-guilty-murder
Killed her baby for interrupting her gaming.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...y-killed_N.htm
Killed, then ate parts of her infant.

http://gawker.com/5672655/woman-kill...void-the-devil
Read the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos
Killed 7 men while prostituting at truck stops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka
Killed three women with her BF, torturing and sexually abusing them. One of them was her own sister.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/828906/detail.html
Killed her 5 children by drowning them.

Basically, you have agreed to respect Hitler if Hitler had a vagina. Learn to think before you blindly agree to bullshit rhetoric. You are the reason why politicians aren't held accountable, you are the reason why your own life is shitty, you are the reason why atrocities happen, you are the reason why leaches continue to make a living by selling guilt in this world.

Don't bother coming at me with "Oh, but you chose all the worst case scenarios." You agreed, EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE. This is what you signed up for, this is what you agreed to respect and uphold. Don't bullshit yourself into thinking otherwise.

Clap, mother fuckers, clap. These are the women you agreed to respect.

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor

Don't bother coming at me with "Oh, but you chose all the worst case scenarios." You agreed, EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE. This is what you signed up for, this is what you agreed to respect and uphold. Don't bullshit yourself into thinking otherwise.

Rand, while I agree with you 100% in principle, I feel you were a little over the top and went to extremes with the women you chose to post links to.

There are a lot of women and men not to respect in every circumstance without going to these extremes.

[Rand Al'Thor]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

Rand, while I agree with you 100% in principle, I feel you were a little over the top and went to extremes with the women you chose to post links to.

There are a lot of women and men not to respect in every circumstance without going to these extremes.

Thank you, Dear_John, I know it's extreme. However, the tone and every word in that post is intentional. Sometimes, it does take a sledge hammer to drive a finishing nail.

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

THIS IS ME



FUCK!!

[essence]

The poll is completely invalid, for reasons which have been amply explained, and no conclusions can be made from it.

There are many, and disparate, reasons for responding NO. They have been amply explained.

It shows maybe the analytical behaviour of men v. more touchy feely behaviours of women.

Using the analytical part of our brain, it is impossible not to answer No.

I may not wish somebody to rot in hell for eternity, but I cannot respect the attitudes and behaviours of every single person.

I understand 'love the sinner but hate the sin' but I don't know what 'respect the sinner and disrespect the sin' means.