Bad math or is 90min a jinx?

[Satyrrical]

So in the last month I have run across half a dozen ads where 90min is more $ per time than 1 or 2 hours.

Ex.
60 = 350
90 = 550 (hour rate would scale linearly to 525)
120 = 700

Is this just bad math or are 90min appointments seen as bad luck to be discouraged?

[Guest061613]

Was it touring providers?

[rrabbit6926]

Yeah I could never figure that one out myself. I favor the girls that offer specials for mulit-hour dates. The rates should go down for more time spent. Just my 2 cents

[Fort Worth Punk]

I always prefer things like:

30 min = $100
60 min = $250

OK, I'll take 2 back-to-back 30's.

[waverunner234]

Another weird thing, higher hourly price for outcall.
So if you go 4 hours, you pay 4 times the travel fee?

[Satyrrical]

Originally Posted by Salsa man

Was it touring providers?

No, it was actually for a recent trip to Chicago that I took. Hence the higher rate.

[Randall Creed]

When I see rates where the math per hour doesn't gradually decrease for more time spent or that ridiculous 90 min tard math bullshit, I completely lose interest. Even worse are the ones who damn near have a rate for almost every reasonable increment of time (i.e 15 min rate, 20 min rate, 30, 45, etc). Bitch, please. That's clock-watching in its purest form.

So, if I go to see you for 30 minutes, and we're done in 15, do I get a rebate?

Hell naaw. But let it take us say, 33 min to get done. Many of them are ready to charge for the hour. Hell, some of them hate when you use 20 of the 30 minutes. I've counted many times from me stepping out of my car, going through the motions (on occasion to include freshening up), tcb, undressing, doing the do, get back to my car, 18-22 minutes pass. In those 18-22 they throw hints about it taking too long (other guys are done in 5-10 min). I'm not other guys and never intend to be.

Another thing I look for with rates is how close the prices are per 30 min (30 = 150, 60 =200). From what I've seen 99% of them are one poppers (no msog). They want you so spend for an hour, but want you done in 15 min, and pay for the whole hour. You're not even fully soft after blowing and they're already halfway dressed.

It's time to move on to the ones that at least PRETEND to give a fuck.

[Cpalmson]

I won't see a provider who's rates aren't consistent based on the length of appt. For example, if a provider offers 300/hr, 450/90min and 600/2 hr, I'll consider seeing her. If a provider offers, 250/hr; 400/ 90 min and 500/2hr; I probably won't see her for the 90min. I'll go with the 1 hour and let things play out with the hope of maybe going over time just a little. I can't justify paying a more per minute rate at 90 than what she offers for 1 or 2 hours. The best girls are the ones who know how to package their time. The hourly rate SHOULD be the highest per minute rate on her menu and from there the per minute rate should decrease over the length of appointment. BTW, I usually steer clear of providers who advertise a 15 min rate, and I'm cautious about seeing a provider with a 30 min rate (but I do understand why they offer the 30 min rate). Additionally, I make sure via research that the provider is not a clockwatcher, and most of the time, I say up front that I expect the full amount of time and to have the most amount of fun during that time.

[DallasRain]

I think my rates are awesome! i fixed it like that so I can cater to the 90 minute ride making it the best bang for the buck....I do not raise rates when i travel,but sometimes I think i should due to high hotel cost...........I try to stay where every man is capable of having some fun on a friendly budget!

I think some gals are overpriced....but that is only MY opinion.....a gal should set what she is comfortable with and what she is making good business with.

[waverunner234]

Client math

if 1 hr is 250...

1/2 hour = 150
1 hr = 250
1 1/2 hr = 350
2 hr = 450
3 hr = 600
5 hr = 700 dinner (3 hour dessert)
8 hr = 1000 overnight

Provider Math

if 1 hr is 250...

1/2 hour = 200
1 hour = 250
1 1/2 hour = 300
2 hours = 550
3 hrs = 850
5 hrs = 1000 dinner (2 hour dessert)
8 hrs = 2500 overnight

[Satyrrical]

To clarify, my question was why several ads I looked at had a higher per time charge for 90 min than other time limits.

I love the ladies that offer discounted per time rates as the length of appointment increases.

I understand the ladies that set a per time rate and stick with it.

I do not get the ladies that charge a certain per time rate for an hour, charge more per time for 90, and then go back to the same per time rate as an hour for two hours. And that was why I axed the question.

350/hr = $5.83 per minute
550/hr = $6.11 per minute
700/hr = $5.83 per minute
WTF?

Why the hike at 90 minutes? Bad math I'm guessing.

[Randall Creed]

It's simple. They don't know how to do the math.


Ladies that have 90-minute rates, here's a freebie: Take your hour rate, cut it in half. Take that hour rate, add the half that you got, and voila`.

For example, if I had a rate of say $300 per hour for my beautiful cock, my 90-minute rate would be $450 (1hr = 300 + hh = $150...ding! 90 = $450).

If it were me I'd probably knock off $25 off that 90-min to make it look more enticing, making a cool $425 for what will probably happen in an hour's time anyway.

There's some ballpark figures for you. Just don't charge UP heading towards 90-min.

On that note, some of the overnight rates for some providers turn out to be equal to or greater than their hour rate. In all honesty, that's pathetic, fwiw. We're not going to be banging for 12, 15, or 24 hours, so why charge such a rate.....unless you're going for deterrence, which is another red flag in itself.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

I won't see a provider who's rates aren't consistent based on the length of appt. For example, if a provider offers 300/hr, 450/90min and 600/2 hr, I'll consider seeing her. If a provider offers, 250/hr; 400/ 90 min and 500/2hr; I probably won't see her for the 90min. I'll go with the 1 hour and let things play out with the hope of maybe going over time just a little. I can't justify paying a more per minute rate at 90 than what she offers for 1 or 2 hours. The best girls are the ones who know how to package their time. The hourly rate SHOULD be the highest per minute rate on her menu and from there the per minute rate should decrease over the length of appointment. BTW, I usually steer clear of providers who advertise a 15 min rate, and I'm cautious about seeing a provider with a 30 min rate (but I do understand why they offer the 30 min rate). Additionally, I make sure via research that the provider is not a clockwatcher, and most of the time, I say up front that I expect the full amount of time and to have the most amount of fun during that time.

BOOM! This right here!

I agree wholeheartedly Cpalmson, but it's all about what price point a lady wants a man to zero in on. The men who like ladies who gear their rates toward longer dates will find a rate structure like 300/hr 400/90 500/2 very attractive, and would probably go for the 2 hour appointment. Guys who like extended dates would probably think 400/hr 700/2 1000/4 was great, and depending on the girl and her location, it could mean that she isn't doing many hourly appointments and knows how to entertain, and would probably go for the 4 hour date.

It may be indicative of not understanding proper pricing structure, but the girls who don't WANT to do longer dates, or that NORMALLY cater to guys that only see ladies for half hour dates will make that the lowest rate because it's easier than sitting around waiting for 200 or 250, but will have those rates available, unaware of how odd it looks. But what it's meant to do is draw you to the half hour rate, and regardless if the numbers don't add up, if the subsequent time frames are reasonable, you're supposed to go for it since they're most likely more than fair. For instance, at 100/hhr 250/hr 350/90 500/2 a guy can just take his pick, especially if she's hot, and her reviews are good.

While I get it, and have an understanding of how my pricing attracts or repels certain gents, I also understand how other ladies feel too. I bet you the last thing they think is that you're judging them based on their price structure. If you like the pics, you can pay the rate, you're supposed to be sold.

[Bigh1955]

It's not about the math; it's about the art!

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by waverunner234

Client math

if 1 hr is 250...

1/2 hour = 150
1 hr = 250
1 1/2 hr = 350
2 hr = 450
3 hr = 600
5 hr = 700 dinner (3 hour dessert)
8 hr = 1000 overnight

Provider Math

if 1 hr is 250...

1/2 hour = 200
1 hour = 250
1 1/2 hour = 300
2 hours = 550
3 hrs = 850
5 hrs = 1000 dinner (2 hour dessert)
8 hrs = 2500 overnight

Aww man those client rates on average would sure be nice....but Id want the overnight hours to be twelve instead of eight, guess I can keep dreaming. But on the same token if her initial hourly rate was 350, a mere 1000 dolar offer for an overnight is an insult to her.

Originally Posted by Satyrrical

60 = 350............
Is this just bad math or are 90min appointments seen as bad luck to be discouraged?

My thing is this.....if her hourly rates is 350 or more, her. 90 minute rate shouldn't be negotiated anyway as she has already priced herself outside of many guys rate preference point. If she wants to charge 700 for two hours more power to her. I won't be participating lol.

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

On that note, some of the overnight rates for some providers turn out to be equal to or greater than their hour rate. In all honesty, that's pathetic, fwiw. We're not going to be banging for 12, 15, or 24 hours, so why charge such a rate.....unless you're going for deterrence, which is another red flag in itself.

Shoot nowadays you can offer a provider who has no overnight rate posted 1,000 for an overnight and they will scoff at it. Maybe she will divide it by 12 and equate that to 88 dollars an hour. She may see 2 to 3 different client in a day and make more than that. Its not as big as a total as it use to be. Its barely some ladies dinner date rate for four hours. On average in glancing through ad in my areas, the new norm is about 1300 to 1500 for 12 hours.


Deterrence huh. Maybe. But why would they want to do that?

1. Maybe she can't perform that long or want to entertain that long.

2. Maybe she has kids and needs a good babysitter she can payoff.

3. Maybe its a traveling fee inserted in it.

4. maybe she is basing her rate off of how much business she will miss to recover after the overnight.

5. Maybe she's basing that rate on what she might accumlate daily in pay (2 to 3 clients) if she didn't book that large portion of time for the overnight.

6. Maybe she has to up her rate to accommodate the viagra use........or a guys natural stamina........


In negotiating overnights (for ladys who don't have the rate on their page) there is a certain pricepoint I won't go above and below depending on her initial hourly rate, it just depends on what she offers and how hot she is. The body type matters too. I rarely see spinners or thin body types who have initial hourly rates of 250 or more with (8-12 hour) overnights rates for less than 1800 or more, which is a tad more than what I prefer to pay usually. For BBWS I won't pay anything above 1300 because there is certain performance and services (very limited on top activities although I prefer this type if they can) they can't do because of their size usually for me. So usually when I hobby I tend to see petite to average type body types because they are usually on point with the rate and what they offer service and performance wise.