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Old 11-17-2021, 10:27 AM   #1
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Default Damn the evidence, convict the white supremacist

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...Zgz?li=BBorjTa
“This is not a political trial,” Judge Bruce Schroeder noted laconically. It was the right thing to say, but he might as well have saved his breath for all that congressional Democrats and the grassroots Left paid attention. They care only about the result. They crave a guilty verdict so badly they can taste it.
Getting to “guilty” and locking 18-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse away for life would help their unstinting efforts to divide the country. It would keep the creaking dirigible of “white supremacy” aloft as an apparently genuine threat to the republic. So they haven’t let the grotesque weakness of the case against Rittenhouse deflect them for a second.
Prosecutor Thomas Binger had been trying to undermine a witness’s testimony by focusing jury attention on his political views, implying that conservatives cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Binger’s admonition was egregious, but he is hardly alone.
Rep. Cori Bush, a congressional Democrat, tweeted on Nov. 15, when the prosecution and defense were wrapping up the case, “When we marched in Ferguson, white supremacists would hide behind a wall near where Michael Brown Jr. was murdered and shoot at us. They never faced consequences. If Kyle Rittenhouse gets acquitted, it tells them that even 7 years later they still can get away with it.”
The honorable member for Missouri’s 1st District knows full well what happened in Ferguson: A thug who’d just robbed a store refused to obey an intervening police officer, charged him, fought to grab his service gun, and was shot dead in the struggle. Brown was not murdered.
A lying witness claimed Brown put up his hands to surrender and shouted, “Don’t shoot.” From this fabrication is derived the anti-police slogan, “Hands up, don’t shoot,” the foundation of the Black Lives Matter movement. Even former President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice said this narrative being peddled by Bush and others seven years later is a lot of horsefeathers.
Bush using falsehoods to press for a political conviction irrespective of the facts is disgraceful, but she is only one voice in the clamoring left-wing crowd. A week before the murder trial was over, before the defense had even started presenting its case, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, demanded, “Lock up Kyle Rittenhouse and throw away the key.” These are our representatives, folks.
Cynical exploitation of the Rittenhouse case is not confined to such lowlifes. It goes right to the top. President Joe Biden used images of Rittenhouse in September 2020 in a campaign video attacking former President Donald Trump and “white supremacists.” And his lofty press secretary, Jen Psaki, finds it tedious to be asked to explain this outrage.
Gross and shocking as the Left’s mendacity is, it cannot be said to be unexpected. It displays yet again something that has been clear for decades. For the umpteenth time, here are Democrats showing they care only about outcomes and don’t give a damn about the process.
That, of course, is their attitude toward the Supreme Court and constitutional cases that either further or hinder the left-wing agenda. They no longer bother with theoretical arguments about the propriety of a “living constitution” as opposed to “textualism” and “originalism.” They explicitly oppose any judicial nominee who seems likely to block left-liberal overreach. The idea that a court should administer the law rather than twist it to fit what Vice President Kamala Harris recently called “The Plan” is fuddy-duddy obscurantism to today’s Democrats. They want results and they want them now.
This is nothing less than a rejection of democracy. For democracy is not a result but a process. It is not a destination but the way we arrive there. Democracy can produce liberal or conservative policy. But liberal or conservative decisions imposed in defiance of the law, whether the criminal law (in the case of Rittenhouse) or constitutional law (as adjudicated by the Supreme Court), are no part of any properly functioning democracy.
This is one of the many ways you can tell that the Left and its party have detached themselves from democracy. They are interested only in results, no matter how they are come by. (You can say that, too, about Trump and those of his supporters who claim the 2020 election he lost was stolen from him.)
Righting the listing ship of state requires that we once again recognize that process, tedious though it may be to political hotheads, is more important than temporary victories and defeats on policy. The idea that results alone are important is the same as saying might makes right. It is the maxim of bullies and tyrants. It is not the political philosophy on which America long stood and should still stand.


Comment - the democraticommunist race baiters , haters, and terrorists are out in force - in Kenosha and teh media - perverting a trial into a 'race-centric' spectacle .
when in fact NONE of teh involved individuals were Black .

It is a perversion of the American justice system - that the trial outcome is politically pre-determined - and threats of Violence from teh democrticommunists are legion - 'Unless they get their Way": - which is a public Burning at the stake of Kyle and a Kenosha city in flames - regardless of teh Verdict.

There is One poster in particular - an obdurate pot-stirrer - who is full force in league with teh democraticommunist racists and marxist race-baiters.

I need not name......



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Old 11-17-2021, 10:41 AM   #2
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obie please consider consolidating your threads. Front page is saturated with this subject.
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Old 11-17-2021, 10:42 AM   #3
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America is great. A Nation of laws, built on the blind legal system that ensures everyone is guaranteed fair due-process with an impartial evaluation of evidence. Where we allow jury tampering and intimidation and pretend it doesn't exist. We want JUSTICE, so long as it works in my favor to destroy someone else.
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:16 AM   #4
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Damn teh white supremacist...



convict teh white supremacist
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:17 AM   #5
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obie please consider consolidating your threads. Front page is saturated with this subject.
Saturation due to infatuation.....so sad
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:30 AM   #6
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Isn’t the convict a (forbidden topic)?

Hopefully that is only coincidental to the vast number of threads being cut and pasted by teh usual suspect.

Perhaps staff can provide a little more impetus than those who have to navigate these badly polluted waters day in and day out.

Respectfully, oeb11, please give it a rest.
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:40 AM   #7
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What makes this guy a white supremacist?

I did not read the OP.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:04 PM   #8
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What makes this guy a white supremacist?

I did not read the OP.
Nor did I. More and more posters are not reading the OP. Don’t have to read them anymore. They’re five Benghazi, errr, Kyle Rittenhouse threads active now on the front page. All by the same OP. All rife with the same BS.

Which one to discuss? And how?

FREE THE POLITICAL FORUM!
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:22 PM   #9
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so....uh.....covids?
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:40 PM   #10
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democraticommunist agenda - "Anyone who disagrees with US - is a 'white supremacist terrorist."
and racist

To wit - winsome sears, and larry elder.



Another 'Big Lie" - from teh propaganda arms of teh democraticommunist paty.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:28 PM   #11
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What makes this guy a white supremacist?

I did not read the OP.

He's White. That seems to be enough for the Joy Reid's in the Democrat Party.


But when the shooter is White and only shot other Whites, how does that have anything to do with race? Was there any evidence presented that Rittenhouse was a member of the Proud Boys which Joy Reid said he was? Was there any evidence what so ever that Rittenhouse had ties to any organization that advocated violence against people of color?


Any evidence that Rittenhouse ever put in writing or spoke the words to any other person that he thought White people are inherently superior to Black people because that is what a White Supremacist is.
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:49 PM   #12
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Any evidence that Rittenhousewill be convicted?

I doubt if he is acquitted that there will be any riots.

It is made up nonsense...like CRT being taught everywhere. Pure BS
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:17 PM   #13
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When you get all your information from Newsmax Fox Telegram etc, things like feelings replace facts.
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Old 11-17-2021, 02:25 PM   #14
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When you get all your information from Newsmax Fox Telegram etc, things like feelings replace facts.

A perfect description of what happens on CNN and especially MSNBC.


Who is changing/ removing false information on the Steele dossier? Did they let their feelings out weigh the facts? Right now, the NYT's and WAPO are having to remove false, misleading information that they won a Pulitzer prize for.


So, for 4 years, if you were getting your information from CNN, MSNBC, NYT's and WAPO, you were getting false information replaced by the feelings of the reporter.


I won't argue that this doesn't ever happen on the media you mentioned but it sure as hell happened on the media I just mentioned.


Do you return a Pulitzer once one has admitted that they published false information?
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It is made up nonsense...
I think for once we agree.

I haven't been following this case because it just screams overhyped, over-politicized retarded bullshit.
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