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Originally Posted by Trey
The Republicans were never conspiracy nuts till Trump. You've lost some respect to be honest. Everything is a conspiracy now. Put on the tin foil hat crew.
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the term "deep state "I think was first used about the intrigues of Turkey's government's functionaries
in the united states the idea of a deep state, in hindsight, might be seen in general, then president, Dwight Eisenhower and his warnings about the military-industrial complex, one might even harken back to our very first president, ol' george himself, warning about foreign entanglements.
the left actually, not the right, began in earnest the belief in a dark aspect of the American intelligence community
they accused the u.s. intelligence community of driving the us into an ever deepening war in vietnam
there was a book written by a college professor titled "deep politics and the death of jfk", ....haven't read that book nor vouching for it, just giving the history of the term
even in popular culture, movies like the oliver stone treatment of jfk's assassination made a claim of a deep state- this coming from the left, not the right
but the look into the assassination of jfk did one thing for sure, exposed the intelligence community's working with organized crime and surveillance within the united states.
in 2014 a tufts university professor used the term "double government" in discussing the lingering powers of our national security institutions between and during presidential terms
couple all this with the unnaturally natural disposition of the bureaucracy to tilt far to the left in terms of maintaining power and pay and benefits and number of personnel and every other indices of power as dimocrats find a large part of the source of their power in the symbiotic slushes of funds between them and unions of all stripes and the dimocrat propensity to want to control all aspects of life, which requires an ever growing bureaucracy
senator schumer warned trump: Intel officials 'have six ways from sunday at getting back at you'
then after eight years of Obama teaming up with government functionaries to use the departments of our state against his political opposition it becomes ever more manifest something is afoot
just the simple abuse of our system of justice at the outset of Obama's administration by not prosecuting the club wielding thugs trying to intimidate voters in philadelphia
or his use to the epa to attack opposition and investigate and fine their businesses
or lois lerner in concert with the doj regarding political profiling
or Obama's assault on free speech and due process on college campuses where he had the department of education’s office of civil rights, in conjunction with the justice department, urge a crackdown on “unwelcome” speech and required complaints to be heard in quasi-judicial procedures that deny legal representation, encourage punishment before trial, and convict based on a mere “more likely than not” standard.
not to mention myriad lies and coverups and use of the state department, doj, cia and fbi by his administration
then the kid glove treatment of hellary and her minions, not putting them under oath, giving them immunity in advance, not prosecuting one of them for what most americans could see as evident- all with an eye to protecting her for another 8 years of the bureaucratic expansion
then we come to the treatment of trump.
the set up and lying and "investigation and "wire-tapping" and fisa abuse and conspiracies AD NASEUAM
the immediate calls for impeachment beginning the night he won the election
comey et al trying to set up trump from the outset, even before he took office
the attacks on and set up of those working for trump
the jiggering of a special prosecutor who at one early stage told trump's lawyer john dowd there was no evidence of collusion, but refused to tell the American people that
the many leaks of information and attempts to head off trump's policies by government functionaries
and this second hand "whistleblower", seemingly poised for the right time and moment, a partisan, misusing the whistleblower statues to leak, all in conjunction with schiff and soros
taken up immediately as proof of what? proof of nothing in the face of the real transcript , but enough to let the dimocrats have something to investigate before the election
and there was the news media, holding the cloaks of these as they did their dark work
so given all that, its natural to think of conspiracy, its extreme partisanship and/or tin foil hat not to
a new and dangerous whistleblower has come forth
